Main Disc. Thread - Objectives / Product Copy Updates / ZP Refresh

[Lion]

@SaintSovereign

RICH

Yes! Updated stacking ideas!!! Although references to Ultima (and Iron Throne) need to be removed:

• The BILLIONAIRE stack: Emperor: The House of Medici, The Ecstasy of Gold, R.I.C.H.
• The SEXUAL THRONE stack: Khan, R.I.C.H., Primal Seduction: Iron Throne
• The INNOVATOR stack: StarkQ, Mogul, R.I.C.H.
• The R.I.C.H. Artist Stack: Ultimate Artist, StarkQ, R.I.C.H.
• The CAREER ACCELERATION stack: Ascended Mogul, Power Can Corrupt, R.I.C.H.
• OR: You can also use R.I.C.H Ultima as a standalone if your sole focus is wealth – and it will work fantastically.

[Billions]

Subs left to get objectives:

• Khan
• PCC
• Inner Circle
• Limitless Executive
• Ascension Chamber (official objective format)
• Aegis Initiative (COVID 19 Experimental)
• Remote Viewing X
• Astral Projection X
• The Legacy
• Limit Destroyer
• Rebirth
• Sex Mastery X2
• Muay Thai Mastery X
  • I’m sure that the Boxing Mastery X objectives are perfect for MTMX, as well.

[Avengers68]

@SaintSovereign Have you tried Chosen Nature and watching a documentary on nature ?

[King]

Hi Saint,

Just saw this among the objectives for EoG.

Begin creating your business / social / romantic empire using the resources you have now, rather than having to “save up” before starting.

Aren’t we supposed to have reached a certain level of financial success before running EoG?

[Palpatine]

I think that’s from Emperor too. I bet it fits here too though

[Lion]

@King

Aren’t we supposed to have reached a certain level of financial success before running EoG?

That’s for HoM.

EoG helps us with achieving greatness in our wealth goals especially if we have issues with money beliefs and having trouble handling our finances. It has ST1 for that purpose.

Basically, EoG helps the poor become rich and the rich become wealthy.

[Billions]

@King

Aren’t we supposed to have reached a certain level of financial success before running EoG?

I think a great path would be to listen to EOG ST1 first, then listen to Mogul for a while, THEN listen to EOG’s remaining stages.

EOG is much bigger, farther reaching, and slower than something like mogul. Mogul is, on the sales page, meant for someone who’s new to subliminals, or just starting a business. So yeah, Mogul is technically more beginner friendly. But EOG just takes a long time and has a lot of scripting to run through. However, if someone has a block achieving financial success, EOG ST1 might be more helpful than Mogul, to help you quickly eradicate that block.

Whether you start with EOG or Mogul just depends on how patient you are and what you want to focus on… ST 1 will heal limiting beliefs, which will prepare you for ST 2 “finding what you want to do in life.” Mogul will help you start now and build up a business, even if it’s just tiny at first, but get it off the ground quickly.

Both are beginner friendly, I’d say. Mogul is just faster.

However, EOG ST3 and ST4 would definitely not be beginner friendly.

[Malkuth]

Alright. These objectives are really great.

Having this does add a lot to each of the programs.

Sometimes I’m an extremist, no-frills kind of person. So, all along a part of me has felt, ‘What the heck are people demanding objectives for? Wouldn’t you rather get more programs instead?! After all, you’re inevitably going to find out the objectives just by running the programs.’

But, yeah. I’m seeing these Objectives laid out on program after program, and okay, fine; it really does enhance the experience of understanding the range of what’s offered.

[Malkuth]

@King

Aren’t we supposed to have reached a certain level of financial success before running EoG?

We’ve had a mixture of perspectives around this question. Not just one.

I, personally, felt that I needed to do other things before getting more benefit from EoG. And we have talked, in the past, about how having some wealth-building system(s) in place (e.g., a company) would allow you to get a higher quality of results from this title.

But…

another factor to keep in mind is that we’re now looking at the ZP version. That adds changes as well.

That ZP factor might even shift the balance towards a more flexible, inclusive range of effectiveness for a program like Ecstasy of Gold.

Ecstasy of Gold was my first purchase with Subliminal Club. And I’ve mentioned before that I think that EoG directly guided me to developing with Alchemist and Quantum Limitless. But that’s just my own story. For me, Alchemist and QL represent the internal resources that will allow me to take better actions around wealth. But that’s highly individual.

[King]

I had been running Mogul to help with my failing business but I think more needs to be done in terms of non-financial root causes for my business not doing so well.

But maybe EoG ST1 will be helpful.

[Billions]

What are those non-financial root causes?

[King]

More pertaining to personality I guess - low productivity, lack of confidence, anxiety, fear of being judged, fear of failure, imposter syndrome etc

I am in my 2nd cycle of DRST1 ZP and wouldn’t mind running it for a 3rd cycle before moving on to something else.

[Lion]

@King - check out the following brilliant post by @ksub who is running AM + EoG ST1:

@ksub

I finished my 3rd round of Asc Mogul + EoG 1. Then I did an extended washout (8 days).
3 rounds of EoG 1 was what I needed. Right now, I feel free. I have very minimal money related anxiety, if any. However, I don’t feel rich. EoG 1 is just what they said it is, clearing and healing. It resets you.
A good comparison is that I’m like a car parked in Neutral. A car in Park is like having all sorts of limiting beliefs that lock your wheels. You can’t move towards money. Drive is when you actively working towards money. Right now, I’m in Neutral. Limiting beliefs seem gone but I’m not making money yet.
I also realized that I don’t know HOW to make money.

EoG1 brought a lot of things to the surface : self sabotaging habits, reasons why I procrastinate. I was able to let go of most of those.
I’m pretty sure that if I did a 4th round of EoG 1, it would bring to the surface even more stuff, but so far I’m happy with what 3 rounds did. One reason I’m so happy about EoG 1 is that money limiting beliefs have held me back so long in life that they almost became second nature. That’s why its feels a little weird to me that I just can’t think that way anymore.

Now I understand why @SaintSovereign and @Fire decided to structure EoG the way they did.
Stage 1 resets you. It clears your fears of even getting in the car. It puts you in Neutral. Stage 2 teaches you how to make money. You learn how to drive, you learn traffic signs and everything else. Stage 3 gets you moving. You’re actively on the roads, driving. Stage 4 ties the first 3 together. Stages 2 and 3 are useless if you didn’t clear a lot of mental and emotional junk with Stage 1.
One of the reasons why I resisted making money so long is that I couldn’t take action because I didn’t know how to do it. Oh by the way, even the guilt of not being financially where I need to be at my age is gone. There is just an acknowledgment of the situation but no guilt or shame.

After 3 rounds of EoG 1, what I’m feeling about money is……… nothing. No joy. No fear of lacking money either. There’s just nothing.

I can’t say that I’m seeing anything significant on the Asc Mogul front yet. However healing subs are known to overpower anything else. I expect Asc Mogul to kick in soon when I move to EoG 2. I want to start making money moves and professional moves, little by little.

I remember some people on this forum being surprised when I say that it took me almost 3 years to see any tangible results from pre-ZP Emperor. My explanation is that you guys have no idea how far I was internally from the Emperor prototype and show much reconciliation I went through.

It’s the same thing with money, most people would be surprised how deep my money related emotional issues are (were). That’s why EoG 1 is such a big deal for me.
Maybe I’ll squeeze a 4th round in. Instead of Asc Mogul + EoG 2, I’ll do Asc Mogul + EoG 1 + EoG 2.

EDIT : I forgot to mention that, out of nowhere, I started seeing making money as a game. There are rules and strategies that I need to learn then I need to play the game. No need to have any emotional attachment to the game. I just need to play and win. I wasn’t thinking that way last year!!!

[AlexanderGraves]

@bujin

I literally live in the forest surrounded by wildlife (bear, deer, coyote, etc), so this could actually be a lot of fun to try.

I am jealous af! I live in the countryside, but living right IN nature must be awesome!

@SaintSovereign

• [Stage 3] Relentless push for massive manifestation of opportunities, wealth, people and situations that can bring you limitless wealth (depends on your level of growth)

So ST3 of EoG has the most money manifestations? Or why did you specifically put ST3 in there?

@Billions

But EOG just takes a long time and has a lot of scripting to run through.

That’s so interesting that EoG is so dense, because it’s SO EASY for me to run it (the first Stage tho). While others f*ck me up heavily.

So, if I have a business, coming to the third year, making a few thousand a month, and I am already running Emperor Chosen, which wealth sub would be best?
Emperor has wealth scripting, but I have it mostly for the masculinity side rn, I need an extra wealth oomph that fires money quickly. I guess RICH?

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Sage_Ninjistic

Checking in for my daily hype contribution.

[Lion]

LOL, @Sage_Ninjistic. I see a comment in this thread and am rushing in to check whether Khan objectives is up.

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Lion

LOL, @Sage_Sanguine. I see a comment in this thread and am rushing in to check whether Khan objectives is up.

I’m just minding my business, holding this torch for The Way of Nature to find its way home. @TheBoxingScientist is unnaturally quiet.

[Lion]

@Sage_Ninjistic

@BlackTiger is unnaturally quiet

Cause he is behind the bushes silently waiting to swiftly pounce as the tiger he is.

[James]

I have been reading the updated objectives for EOG multiple times. If a person runs EOG long term and doesn’t become wealthy there is definitely something wrong

It’s so weird at times though to have access to EOG because although I spent a vast majority of my adult life believing a relationship would solve all my problems but in the back of my mind all I could ever think about was wanting to be completely self reliant. Especially financially.

To clarify no relationship solved all my problems. In most cases it only attracted unwanted and unnecessary drama

[Malkuth]

When I ran EoG, the version was pre-Qv2, even pre-Q. This ZP version is probably a completely new beast.