Main Disc. Thread - Libertine ZP

[SaintSovereign]

@friday

Can‘t you simply change your local time on your phone and get over this measurement easily?

No, because you’ll have to login to the app, and there would be a server-side component (stored on our server, not your local device) that determines whether you’ll be able to play a track. Easy peasy.

@friday

I really do not like this idea of forcing people into listening schedules, especially if it can be easily overcome any way.

It won’t be overcome easily.

@friday

Better to make the sub safer, add scripting that helps the user to follow the guidelines for his individual stack, whatever - or even make two versions of the same title available, one for new people and the stronger one only for people who proved to follow instructions, know what they are doing and can cope with reconciliation.

Doesn’t work like that, unfortunately. You can easily ignore this kind of scripting if you want, plus it could cause significant recon in some.

@Melior

It’s quite a hard task in the end no matter what method

Not really. Like I said, if you store the user’s listening history server-side, changing local variables won’t do anything. This is the same way MMORPGs store which items you have. It’s done server side rather than locally (so you can’t hack the files and give yourself unlimited gold and the such).

@Theacrobat

I believe that those who don’t fear overexposure will do it anyway.

Not with a hard lockout. If we go this route, you can always use the 15 minute versions. 3 minute and 5 minute versions are too tempting and dangerous for us to just release to the public without any oversight.

@friday

Safety over Freedom, seems like world politics are slowly swapping over to subclubs forum hahah

For me, it’s more like limiting liability and having a business versus not having a business because some idiot overexposed himself, got hurt and decided to be litigious. I care about all of ya’ll, but I ain’t losing my dream over this. If we did go this route and the backlash became too great, we’d just scrap the 3 / 5 minute versions.

@Theacrobat

If something goes wrong, you are interrupted, the dogs are barking, etc…you are gonna have to justify another loop of the file.

If you can’t go somewhere for 3 minutes (9 minutes with a full stack) without being interrupted, that’s not on us. You gotta think big picture.

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

If you can’t go somewhere for 3 minutes (9 minutes with a full stack) without being interrupted, that’s not on us. You gotta think big picture.

EXACTLY!!!

[ABC333]

For entertainment purposes only I’d like to see you run KHAN.

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

For me, it’s more like limiting liability and having a business versus not having a business because some idiot overexposed himself, got hurt and decided to be litigious.

you should not really think about this.

its going to inevitable as you grow.

its NOT a matter of IF

its a matter of WHEN

its the law of large numbers

for example, i remember reading that every day someone who works for wall mart commits a murder

why?

law of large numbers

they employ so many people that a tiny % will commit murder

in fact, the first lawsuit is a sign the business is doing well that someone thinks your big enough they can get something from suing you

so yeah i 100% think you should focus on creating the best products and 0% on babysitting idiots who do not follow instructions

every company has this problem and every company gets sued at scale so if you plan to keep growing its a matter of WHEN not IF you will get sued

[NinjaFox]

It’s just sad that this is a thing people not following directions, I for one have been following the instruction and yes I did run regeneration during my last 21 days.
I would like to try these out as long as its limitless and rich.

[Phoermes]

@SaintSovereign

3 minute version and a 7 minute version and early results are phenomenal.

What’s next? Scanning a QR code and you’re done

[magician]

Or better.

Make a list of the people who did not follow the rules and don’t share with them those versions.

[Trader]

they are not “rules”

[Trader]

Maybe we should make a list of people who never try stuff outside the box, and never let them test new tech

[Theacrobat]

@SaintSovereign

If you can’t go somewhere for 3 minutes (9 minutes with a full stack) without being interrupted, that’s not on us. You gotta think big picture.

It’s not only the 3 minutes time schedule.

It’s the perception (a justified one) that you are vigilated, given a ration of a sub just in case you deviate from the guideline.
My intuition is that it is not harmless to the subconscious compliance.

[SaintSovereign]

This isn’t about control or compliance – it’s about making sure we don’t go out of business because some people “don’t want to be told what to do.”

To avoid the shenanigans, we probably won’t release these shorter versions any time soon. 15 minutes isn’t too bad.

Let’s get back to Libertine, though.

[MavericKobra]

Bwahahahaha Noice

[RockyHandsome]

Actually I concur with @MadaraUchiha we are grown adults not kindergarten kids.

Reminds me of a time my friend warned me about playing with nunchakus. I ignored his advice and began spinning them around like Bruce Lee. Guess what the baton accidently hit the back of my head almost knocked myself out

I was 22 years old at the time a fully grown adult i accept it was my fault not the manufactures who made them.

[Hoppa]

@RockyHandsome

I was 22 years old at the time a fully grown adult i accept it was my fault not the manufactures who made them.

It’s a really weird thought that the person operating some machine, or playing with nunchakus, or using subliminals wouldn’t be responsible for his actions.

I guess the legal system in USA just is like that… Weird.

How is it in UK?

[RockyHandsome]

I was just commenting upon the fact that SC should not have to build in some algorithum to prevent users from listening to more loops then they should. I was just clarifying this with an example as I said we are all grown adults we either choose to accept the instructions or ignore them.

I think american rules are a bit weird compared to UK rules. i remember there was a loop hole in the law which allowed a woman to sue the makers of the first microwave. She put her poodle in the microwave to dry and it exploded. She went and sued the microwave vendor on the grounds that they never said you cannot stick a dog in the microwave to dry.

[Invictus]

@RockyHandsome

She put her poodle in the microwave to dry and it exploded. She went and sued the microwave vendor on the grounds that they never said you cannot stick a dog in the microwave to dry.

This reminds me of that one case where a guy sued RedBull because it didn’t give him actual wings

[SubliminalUser]

Completely agree with you here. Now, when can we get an updated description of Libertine?

[HansLanda]

Is it just me, or Libertine ZP is really energy demanding? After running a loop on Monday of Libertine + Wanted, I feel the need to sleep more and can’t seem to get enough rest. I needed to take one extra rest day.

[friday]

How many days passed since my first and last loop of Libertine now? Three?

Went out today and the Libertine Aura was still present. Noticed increased interests from women, who seemed to create situations just to come closer to me and ask me questions. Also had some very intriguing eye contact with one lady. I caught her looking at me with a dreamy look and lusty vibe, and blushing when I smiled at her seductively. Sadly she was not my type.
Hardly, noticed the social aspects of LibertineZP though. 3 days after the last exposure to the program it felt more like old Libertine Ultima when the program did not kick in fully yet. Still I am pretty impressed.

EDIT: The girl I had the eye-fuck with just texted me. I never gave her my number so she had to ask a mutual friend about it ahah.

[weir]

Awesome