I’m not sure anymore that I followed correctly this thread, if you’re okay with it could you explain how you feel that a dream was a “recon” sign ?
Nb°1 to me
2nd place but a close one
I don’t like others ahahaha sorry
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That’s in Primal Seduction. Libertine is an attractant. If we added both, you’d get R E C O N C I L I A T I O N.
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The dreams are very vivid, there’s an overall sense of fear in it, you wake up the next day with a foggy, groggy head and / or irritation.
@friday is also an advanced user, so he’s aware of his internal issues.
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I just came back from going out with my ladies to watch a striptease / sexy dance show, exchanged numbers with four of the dancers, and now I see this forum going crazy 
Man, I love you guys!
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So that means
Libertine and PS won’t go well together ?
May be I misunderstood this altogether.
Someone can throw some light on this ?
@rajeshwer i think what Saint is saying is they are both incompatible so do not run them together. A better option would be to run wanted and libertine.
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I think that he was saying that if he put that in Libertine itself it would cause recon. I think a number of people are running both titles and none of the powers that be have said anything about it. It must have something to do with how ZP works.
I can also attest to this…
I ran it on new year’s and like I felt like I had super powers. The super power was the ability to control my energy. Its so so weird to say it but I felt like I had this forcefield around me that night. Like any girl I lock contact with its like this whoosh energy in between us. Like a game that only a girl knows yet she’s surprised Im also aware of it.
To describe it… I’ve been managing to hit flow state consistently but usually it’d take awhile and id need to pre-game and the music of the venue had to be really nice. But with Libertine I was in the Zone. Like bro any girl I locked eye contact with responded way too nice man.
So anyways there was this one girl and literally 30-50 seconds… make out. Like I was making eye contact with her and I think I was smiling at her and she just giggled and looked away and then I was like “can I kiss you?” and bam. Makeout.
The aura I can see is real like I felt so good in my own energy it was like controlled energy. Like I was feeling a bit tired but this feeling from behind my eyes is what I can describe it as.
For me Im glad I didn’t get primal because the Libertine ZP aura is all I need. I loved wanted but this is like attraction on steroids. Flow State and Sexual Energy Forcefield ZP is what it should be called
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Libertine is like an Aura vibe… It goes and should go incredibly dangerously well with WANTED.
Imho I hate cold approaching girls. Im into getting girls to chase me lol much better.
Dan bilzerian doesnt cold approach chicks cause he dan bilzerian. NBA players don’t cold approach. The naturals at fraternities dont cold approach.
When you study the guys who were getting results with your dream girl its rarely cold approach tbh.
And by cold approach I mean like going to a mall and mass approaching girls lol. The pickup thing.
I do 100% agree that if you’re going about your business and you happen to meet an attractive girl bro by all means go for it and I encourage just to talk to her and say hi… Dont think of it as a “cold approach” the language you use to label the interaction is more important than the interaction itself.
I usually just checkout our vibe and if I can sense she’s into me… attracted to me… if not I’ll try kinda getting to know her quickly see if we share common interests if not ill just tell her straight I think she’s cute and if she responds positively give her my number if not move on…
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Ahhhh I see better now thanks
I had one when I first started zp that fits perfectly that descritpion, so now I understand
I wouldn’t say they are incompatible, because both of the subs are created for the same goal, but just with different approach - PS is overall complex seduction title and Libertine is “just” an extremely sexual aura. Also, remember there is Libertine in PSITU, so they are intended to work together. I think Saint only told that adding approaching aspect to Libertine would make it too complex than and somewhat clash in the type of attraction you want to create so it would cause recon, and also Primal Seduction is exactly for that purpose, so it will be redundant.
Anyways stacking Libertine either with Wanted or PS (or both?) is a great idea and it depends on personal preferences. I started combining Libertine with Wanted but it came to a temporary halt because I got Covid now and can’t go out at the moment.
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Had the same hahaha, when they closed everything down, I slowly dropped my seduction stuff xD I got Covid and I went on emperor only
Yes, they are compatible:
" We recommend stacking Libertine with Sex & Seduction, Sex Mastery X, Primal Seduction (and PS: Iron Throne), Khan or a custom subliminal focused on sex."
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From the Libertine sales page (Libertine Ultima v2: Attract Beautiful Sexual Partners With An Aura of Infinite Lust - SubliminalClub) :
We recommend stacking Libertine with Sex & Seduction, Sex Mastery X, Primal Seduction (and PS: Iron Throne), Khan or a custom subliminal focused on sex.
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Dan Bilzerian doesn’t cold approach girls, not because he is Dan Bilzerian but because he uses daddies money to pay prostitutes.
Then perhaps you need to focus on being able to do so instead of wasting time with something irrelevant like, oh I dunno, your eye colour.
Well yes, the lazy mans creed writ’ large.
But what if the girls who chase you are not the ones you want? You get stuck with the mingers. Far better to be the man in charge, who knows what he wants and goes out and gets it than being stuck with others cast off etc…
And how, pray tell, do men get better at talking to women if they don’t actually get out there and practise talking to women in the first place?
Your advice is ridiculous.
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It’s a fundamentally different approach. I personally have no need to chase any women because I’ve no interest in any women who aren’t perceptive and bold enough to approach me out of their own self-interest.
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Thats one way of putting it.
“I personally have no need to chase any man because I’ve no interest in any man who isn’t perceptive and bold enough to approach me out of their own self-interest”, said all the hot girls you want to have sex with.
Or are you merely saying this because you have approach anxiety and ego self defence is a wonderful thing to behold?
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I spent years approaching women and succeeding about as often as I failed, usually based on all the typical factors you’d expect. A lot of the successful approaches didn’t lead to good sex or even a fun relationship though.
When I switched strategies to simply “hanging out my flag” and focusing on being fully confident and aware that I was successfully communicating what I have on offer to those around me I would have a 100% success rate with women who approached me and almost every single one lead to very enjoyable experiences.
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But what about the ones who didn’t approach you but you would have liked to get to know better?
Being passive doesn’t help in that case, does it.
And lets face it, for the guys that have no experience with this sort of thing they won’t want the girls that do approach them, will they. So this is clearly bad advise for those who want to level up in this aspect of their lives.
Libertine gives you the “silver tongue” but i guess that if you don’t manage to approach the woman the script won’t execute.