Main Disc. Thread - Libertine ZP

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#206

Dan Bilzerian doesn’t cold approach girls, not because he is Dan Bilzerian but because he uses daddies money to pay prostitutes.

Then perhaps you need to focus on being able to do so instead of wasting time with something irrelevant like, oh I dunno, your eye colour.

Well yes, the lazy mans creed writ’ large.

But what if the girls who chase you are not the ones you want? You get stuck with the mingers. Far better to be the man in charge, who knows what he wants and goes out and gets it than being stuck with others cast off etc…

And how, pray tell, do men get better at talking to women if they don’t actually get out there and practise talking to women in the first place?

Your advice is ridiculous.

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#207

It’s a fundamentally different approach. I personally have no need to chase any women because I’ve no interest in any women who aren’t perceptive and bold enough to approach me out of their own self-interest.

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#208

Thats one way of putting it.

“I personally have no need to chase any man because I’ve no interest in any man who isn’t perceptive and bold enough to approach me out of their own self-interest”, said all the hot girls you want to have sex with.

Or are you merely saying this because you have approach anxiety and ego self defence is a wonderful thing to behold?

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#209

I spent years approaching women and succeeding about as often as I failed, usually based on all the typical factors you’d expect. A lot of the successful approaches didn’t lead to good sex or even a fun relationship though.

When I switched strategies to simply “hanging out my flag” and focusing on being fully confident and aware that I was successfully communicating what I have on offer to those around me I would have a 100% success rate with women who approached me and almost every single one lead to very enjoyable experiences.

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#210

But what about the ones who didn’t approach you but you would have liked to get to know better?

Being passive doesn’t help in that case, does it.

And lets face it, for the guys that have no experience with this sort of thing they won’t want the girls that do approach them, will they. So this is clearly bad advise for those who want to level up in this aspect of their lives.

#211

Libertine gives you the “silver tongue” but i guess that if you don’t manage to approach the woman the script won’t execute.

#212

Lol dude I get girls who are 10s chasing me and I can’t get an average girl even if I tried.

Chasing repulses girls. Don’t say it’s the lazy man’s way because you don’t get girls chasing ya.

It’s simple. Become the guy she chases. Every girl has that guy. The real lazy man’s way is not working to be that guy. That’s the uncomfortable truth most aren’t ready to face :man_shrugging:t5:

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#213

Your so stuck in this pua “go after it” hole you don’t know that there exists realities where guys are with your dream girl and your wasting your time tryna pick up this girl from the street with all odds against you. Lol.

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#214

OK. So you both have different philosophies. Moving on :wink:

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#215

@remarkable

We are hardcore Cold Approaching camp . As with anything , it has its own plus and Minus .
I agree with whatever you have to say .

But I think everyone has their own style of courting .

Back to Libertine ZP

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#216

Exactly lol. Man I’m speaking from experience too haha.

They all eventually turn to this truth. But no we’re brainwashed by media to always be the Prince Charming who chases after girls with flowers, tries sooo hard. Meanwhile the princess is probably with that hot servant lol. Mannnnn anyways that’s enough you can lead them to the water but can’t make ‘em drink.

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#217

True. Your right man. There’s 2 archetypes to this the Primal and the Wanted both completely different styles both effective. It’s like politics there’s no right or wrong school lol

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#218

A couple of points.

  1. You remain passive and simply won’t be getting every girl you like to show an interest in you. You continue to deliberately ignore this point.

  2. You have nothing to offer to guys who are levelling up this area of their life, in fact your advice is actively bad for them. You continue to deliberately ignore this point.

In fact the veracity of your advice to be improved by you simply stating “no reason” instead of you refusing to address to salient points of exactly why your advice is not just wrong but actively harmfully, what are you going to come up with next, not to use subs?

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#219

Can you gentlemen take this to PM or something? It’s way beyond the scope of just talking about Libertine now.

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#220

Dude I’m not ignoring that point. Literally the number 1 mistake guys make is starting to cold approach girls they’re not interested in and girls who they think is out of their league. But what happens? They get shut down and rejected.

Dude 1000s of rejections are common for these guys. That’s not something that any guy can tolerate and that destroys confidence. For the hard case newbie or guys that are heavy into it

And chances are that he was never told HOW to be attractive he’s taught that he’s not good at talking with girls. Which is the worst belief that can be implanted.

I argue most guy are naturally good with girls. Can you make your mom smile? Do you have sisters? You shouldn’t focus on “seducing a girl” when you can’t even make friends with a girl.

When your tryna level up you gotta unplug from the matrix.I wish I understood that I should just work on myself and focus on creating an amazing lifestyle that I’m happy about. When I do that…. I have more abundance which gives me confidence. Real bullet proof confidence from putting effort into becoming a better man.

Why practice with girls when you can learn how to increase the quality of girls into you.

It’s the tough answer no one wants to hear but if your fat or unattractive and you just want to have sex with any women you see mass cold approach isn’t the solution. The solution is building confidence by shifting your focus away from it and start building.

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#221

Last point. And this piece of advice will get you every girl that is possibly into you and defeats your point 1 about missing opportunities.

Every girl has her type or has a guy she’s attracted to. And if she’s attracted to you she will give signals. This signal can be a look, a smile. And this is confirmation that she finds you attractive and wants you to talk to her.

Whenever I go to clubs or anywhere where I find an attractive girl I do this and I instantly know whether it’s on.

The more experience the better you will be at recognizing this.

My point is if a girl finds you attractive she will make it know to you.

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#222

Again you fail to state how guys can get better.

You also make the mistake that approach anxiety cannot be overcome.

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#223

Suppose you have a million dollars which your about to give a stranger. Do you get approach anxiety as your about to tell this person they won the lottery?

Lol. Anyways I’m done I hope you got value out of it I gotta go

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#224

I think it was a great debate. No harm was done and It just a battle of ideas. Bouncing off ideas and philosophy allows people to start to think and open up their thinking. Because libertine ZP is a goat sub for me who’s ran wanted and for my style of things. And primal may be better suited to those into approaching.

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#225

Again you fail to address the point that not all girls you like will approach you.

And it is by approaching them and talking to them that will help them become attracted to you.