What about stacking st4 with stark?
Also adding GLM or commander
By the way, what is the difference between commander and GLM?
Previous versions of stark and khan stage 4 worked well for me so there is no reason these two bad boys cant work together.
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Report on khan
Today I ran 1 loop of st1 and 1 loop of st4
And now more than 12 hours and repressing my urge for a few hours and then opening pornhub and taking my dick in my hand and touching it. I literally had no feeling and urge towards, from one side there was a though which was saying this shit(porn) is useless and hurtful so stop it. And from other side there was no urge. And also I though of the consequence like tomorrow I’ll wake up tiiired and frustrated and hating myself for jerking off, I experienced that incident that is why. I guess that is learning from past memories.
And I also done something productive today
Actually alot of productivity, alot of selling and content creation
I think it has two reasons, Khan and my 8 titles washout
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45 days per stage - 6 months 
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I take that back. Somewhat. Yes, I did not “feel” different, but I did experience the day different than my usual. Switching from a emp-stark-spartan to a khan-stark-spartan stack.
- whenever I run emp, I feel a light pressure over my chest and I’m anxious. disappeared today after khan
- I was extremely chatty with everyone: exchanged jokes with the guy at customs about 1 minute after he checked my passport. it just felt comfortable to do it.
- At the hotel check-in: same, super chatty, relaxed and I just made fun conversation. The guy told me at some point: “you know what, I’m gonna bump you to our executive suite, no extra charge if you want”. I took it I liked the fact that I was definitely setting the pace and tone of the whole conversation, but he did not seem intimidated at any point.
- work meeting at dinner: again I set a light tone with my boss, my boss boss and some colleagues. everything felt natural, even saying to my boss’ boss that next time he’s in my country I’ll pick the restaurant and his food
- I can’t really say anything about women yet.
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You are on stage 4?
yeah, I have 2+ years of Khan… so I jumped to st4.
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I’m not as advanced as you, it’s been a year I have ran Khan, and I want the healing 
Anyway we are still in lockdown in canada. People are starting to protest here, even the hockey league put pressure on governments because they wanted to host their event and they fear the NHL will just host all the events in USA…
So things should open up eventually.
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Yeah, no hurry for sure. I really enjoyed the lighthearted tone of the entire day today.
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I’m happy for you, I will report my first day of Khan St1+Limitless tomorrow
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You do that! I’m really curious to hear other experiences…
Something’s in the air.
@Simon’s words really hit me today while browsing this thread.
It’s got me looking seriously at Khan vs. DR, and my listening cycle using CFW ends in less than a week.
For one, it has Total Breakdown to annihilate all the mental bullshit I recycle over and over again.
I’ve been thinking on this all day, and TB is only one reason I’m considering it.
I wrote this morning in my Chosen journal, and I feel like I’m laying down, allowing others to think less of me or put me down. I am so sick of thinking “I’m not…”, “I can’t…”, and the worst of them all is “I won’t…” I’ve believed this about myself and I’m angry.
I would LOVE to be able to
And women? They’re all in that category of “I won’t” with me constantly finding shitty reasons I can’t/won’t/will fail.
And finally, my biggest point. I’ve been around the psychology/self-help side of life since I was 19 years old. I even got my bachelor’s in it. I came to SubClub 4 years ago since I wanted to feel like more of a man. Self help and psychology make one “nice”, but never ever do they give one tools for being a man. That’s why psychology has disappointed me. There’s a major disconnect for me.
I’m tired of shitting on myself.
I’d like to be honest, free, capable, willing, self-respecting, self-accepting, and more assertive. I’m seriously considering starting Kahn.
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It might be worth to integrate some more base subs as essentials through 45-day runs before starting Khan. I can think of running Daredevil, Primal, True Social, Ascension.
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Your logic is valid @SubliminalUser.
However, it skips the healing part, the removal of toxic self-assessments and all. Kahn has everything, with added push.
I am inclined to believe that the healing inherent in ZP is sufficient for Khan, provided one has done some healing in the past. And that healing would come from running these other titles since they too will have the ZP healing.
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I tend to agree with you regarding the fact that ZP is all good for healing. But, I also believe that total breakdown or some strong healing sub can accelerate the progress in the sense that if you do 1 month healing and 1 month of the sub, you could have more results than 2 months of the sub.
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@GoldenTiger haven’t you run DR?
I just find it surprising that many would like to run ST1 when I’ve seen multiple of these people in other healing sub threads. If I were to run ST1 again (a stretch) I’d be stacking that with ST4.
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Yeah, I have a tendency to believe I need healing, but I don’t think I need big healing. A big part of it was already done. Thing is, since my depression there are a lot of things I have “unlearned” and old patterns that came back.
I want to do the healing to start the snowball, and maybe clear some more stuff that wasn’t healed. I actually did only 5 months healing since starting subclub. I ran Khan St1 in 2019 and early 2021 I ran Dragon reborn! (Ok, maybe I made a healing custom also hahaha, I ran it, but dragon reborn came out just after…! I believe we were in the same boat regarding this 
)
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