Main Disc. Thread - Khan ZP

Once again you’re assuming I’m being emotional :man_facepalming:t2:. Never mind

Na khan stage 3 has a magical power in manifesting hard and I mean hard

Stage 4 will feel more balanced and well rounded

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In my case stage 3 made me more decisive in taking action and stopping procrastination but then it was too sexual for me. Whereas stage 4 made me feel relaxed towards taking action, kind of like inspired action, more rational decisions but its kind of dense. While on stage 4 I’ve been having good days and some days im passing through recon.
Stage 3 i was kind of possessed like I was on meth, total action without even thinking but stage 4, more rational.

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i actually bought khan hoping to get this result of super horny all the time. i did not get that but it ended up helping with procrastination more then anything.

i had terrible sleep on key days though and bad sleep kills testosterone so im hoping when i run stage 3 again while getting good sleep i will get that result of being super horny all the time everyone says they get,

Sage 4 is different. It has all the script of Khan and trust me you’ll feel like the boss while taking action. Even my conversations have changed but then some days I’m passing through recon. I’ve decided to stick to it though cos its the sub that’s given me the best feeling so far even though I haven’t gotten all I intended in the first place like the sexual encounters, I feel I’m more in control of my reality on stage 4

Based on this conversation with Fire, I would say St3 is the better option.

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I’m going to be honest with you I love being horny I ain’t one to shy away from being ultra horny and I hold it with pride but the horny I got in STAGE 3 BEFORE I MANIFESTED social life was the closest to a curse I ever got

yeah i have this conversation in my notes from when i was researching Kahn; it was a big part of why i started with stage 3.

I’d appreciate it if more people listening to Khan shared links to their journal here. It kind of helps Guage the differences in experiences as no two person’s experience could be the same

Unfortunately for you. Your scientific skills aren’t as great as you think they are

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I think there is value in what you are saying, just that in my experience things are not so black or white. A genuinely horny beggar who did not had a shower in 2 weeks, won’t see his chances increased just because he is horny.

With that said, years back I did an experiment to validate exactly this: 24/24, 10 days I was exposing myself to porn, no masturbation. The idea was to understand if my image about myself around women is real or not. For me, it was the first time when I really clicked with how Deida sees women in “the way of the superior man”, I was drunk with beauty of all forms and stripped from any societal norms or restrictions. This adoration of the feminine and freedom will make you extremely attractive, but it remove some of the “laid back” attitude. It was a revealing experiment for me.

This is an extreme example, but I do believe that if someone has the capacity to spend one, two weeks just enjoying life and women, his attraction will skyrocket. We are in reality, from this objective POV, weighed down by other focuses like money, day to day issues and social norms.

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High horniness is not a cheat code to getting laid. I am sorry but this is nonsense. If this was the case all those blokes who are feeding themselves a diet of porn would be getting laid.

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I am running Khan ST3 now & I can relate to most of things you mentioned here…I also stopped sending text or snap to the person who doesn’t reciprocated same…I am not that needy desprate guy anymore

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Thank You for this
It will be very helpful for me for my remaining khan journey & other subs

I will look at sales copy take action & journal if I achieved it or not

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Thinking about this now I think Khan is a program for those who could be patient, if you think about the archetype which you’re trying to achieve which is far from the person you are. It also depends on the society you’ve been raised in and also the environment and I’m sorry to say this but the society I’ve been brought up in is full of simps and glorify simps.

I remember a girl I was gaming who told me plainly she’s only looking for money, not money, not relationship and I can’t give her that. She later said yes to a guy who took her on a trip to Dubai.
This happened while I had just began listening to khan stage 4 zp

I won’t be changing subs rather I’ll stick to Khan because I’ve gotten a taste of the man I could become and it feels so good it just takes time to achieve

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How long have you been using Khan, and what are you stacking it with?

Protect this guy at all costs

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no disrespect but to me all those sound nice guy behavior and because of that she didn’t respect you so she was trying to dominate you and make you a beta when you asked for her number. or very likely that she is just a feminist and wants to see if you gonna be “toxic” or not. because in their eyes a beta is not a “toxic” guy and they can control him and dominate him easily.

and btw you should never ask a girl for her number it comes off as needy (you can frame it way better). and you should never talk for a while, there’s no need, it shows lack of confidence.

and of course she tried to blame you when you didn’t comply to her terrible behavior, even having the audacity to tell you that you missed out on her like she’s a goddess that descends from the heavens one in a million years and that was your only chance. her ego is way up there. i call 5 cat bags delusion score.

unfortunately that’s most women nowadays that get likes on instagram. their ego is being inflated a ton and they think they deserve cristiano ronaldo. i’m talking about average hot women that have no other value other than their beauty.

anyways you dodged a bullet brother. trust me. you deserve a girl that respects you but you got work to do for that to happen. i realise my post can be very triggering to you but i hope you understand i’m trying to help and that you need to change

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I know your post is not directed to me and you didn’t ask anyone for tips. I respect you completely.

But I want to point out, that telling someone to “Stop being emotional” is the purest example for a lack of emotional intelligence.

I suggest that you or anyone else that resonates with phrases like that, to run ChosenZP and work on developing their understanding, empathy and leadership skills.

It’s incredibly beneficial in general and can improve all of your interactions + relationships… it’s not just for work environments or leadership positions.

One of the pro-tips listed is (Chosen will positively affect all areas of your life.)


@Vkluff , you’ve mentioned here that you haven’t noticed much with WantedZP and I think I can touch on potentially why.

The dynamic of this recent experience you’ve shared:

is on the complete opposite spectrum of WantedZP.

There is nothing you could’ve done differently in the interaction itself. The trajectory was already decided…

You see, it’s a matter of position and that was determined far before… possibly even from your very first interaction.

It’s built into the relationship, through both of your frames and subconscious beliefs and you are providing each other feedback.

This is how the relationship will manifest, regardless of what conscious approach you take, what situational adjustments you make or what choice of words you choose.

The PUA community loves all that overthinking, complexity shit because they don’t know how to take advantage of their subconscious mind and go through a shift to where they can win just by being themselves.

I hope I’m making sense here.

What I’m saying is that you just have to change the position that you operate from and you’ll never manifest experiences like that ever again.

But doing so, means you have to have a higher self-worth with regards to women
You have to become the ultimate and absolute QUALIFIER with ZERO wiggle room.
That’s what WantedZP will turn you into.

The hot women that every guy thirsts for, ogles at and gushes for, will make you yawn and look at your watch.

Anyways, the Wanted archetype is a coquette and it seems that the woman you were engaging with was in the position of being the prize/qualifier.
It’s almost like she was running Wanted (though I must say, her coquette is terrible, lol)…

She told you to say “please”, lol… That’s something that I often make women say as a flirty and playful gesture.

You know, I always hear men talk about how women “shit-test” them…
They’ve never been in the other realm, lol.

Once you’ve crossed into a certain level of self-worth and wantedness, you’ll be the one shit-testing women… to see if they’re even worth the fun.

You see how the dynamic is completely switched around? This is a rare thing in society, it’s not programmed or accepted as the default way of things.

This is somewhat true. The women on Instagram are getting their likes and validation… but from who?

Have you seen those guys in the comments?
I looked at comments on pictures of the woman I’m dating and a lot of them I can tell are from porn addicted, creep type of guys with low self worth.

This is who they are getting their ego pumped up from. There’s 2 genders, male and female… but there are like 2 different species of men, lol.

The pumped up ego, validation, “self worth”, and qualifer position that these women have ONLY applies to 1 species of men.

For the other species, it’s absolutely useless. It doesn’t work.

When they encounter this species of men, it’s like seeing a ghost. It doesn’t make sense to them, because they’re SO used to the other species, in fact most of their identity is BUILT through interaction with the other species.

I hope I’m making sense here, lol. Of course there is no 2 species and it’s just for the means of explaining the point…

They need something interesting and you have to be someone that separates from the rest.

On nearly 5 months of Wanted, I do exactly this…

I automatically make them overthink and second guess themselves, just like you did here.
But before and during as well, not just after, lol.

To summarize, you’re the complete opposite of being Wanted (operating from the position of the absolute invincible qualifer/prize). That’s why you haven’t noticed much with it, it’s going to take time.
It’s not going to jump you in position too quickly because that requires your beliefs to change and that’s a process… A potentially longer one for you, because of how much you contrast it.

If you want to do Wanted ZP then use it consistently for 6 months and I doubt that you’ll attract women who can engage with you like that, lol.

Khan seems to be working well for you though, so that is good too.
I am merely shedding some light on a subliminal that you used, yet weren’t satisfied with.

Keep it going, you’re on the right track.

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Stop being emotional was my way of saying stop making it personal

And I’ll use it here again