Masturbation with and without porn is a different subject with different outcomes tho.
Also the porn today and throughout history is a different thing, now its much more intense and extreme than anything before and more comparable to drugs.
Our psychology doesnt advance at same speed as technology does which is why many get deeply addicted to it to point in impacts their lives n relationships.
Been interesting reading that tribes before starlink that never had access to Internet, its members got addicted to porn to point they were neglecting their daily duties which are neccessery for trible survival.




