This is consistent with what I know as well.
Particularly on the first time listening to a multi-stager.
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I ran KB1 from Nov 8th until Jan 5th, which according to my quick glance at my calendar is about 3 cycles and about a week. I didnāt factor in rest days so without mining through my journal that I was logging in at the time, Iāll say 3-4 cycles.
Each of the cycles thereafter have been singles, having just completed my run of KB4 the other day.
I read the above posts from the most recent 10 hours or so.
In general, I think one way to think about this is to start by checking the support articles for the current recommendations.
What Iāve done in the past with multi-stagers is the run them for a minimum of 30 days, perhaps even 45 days. To be very specific, I start DR on January 1, then at February 1 I might proceed to stage 2. Or maybe Iād continue stage 1 until February 15. NOTE: this is what I did, and that was BEFORE the ZP build.
I would encourage people to consider running the stages in the order as recommended in the support articles and/or product pages.
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@AnswerGroup any thoughts on when KB might be getting itās NSE update in the current Mysteries sub-season?
Looking to build a custom with KB4 & Paragon Sleep (also hinted at the fact that Fire is working on that, I think)
Knowing an estimated (but not 100% reliable, donāt worry I understand the process) time-frame would be really helpful!
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Thatād be nuts. Khan already got updated right?
Yes, it has.
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epic. If kb gets updated with NSEā¦ jesus. Iāll definitely wait with my custom for that haha
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My thoughts exactly lol
Worth the wait for sure
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Just keep in mind, that it could also be Stage1 blooming that brought the healing, not Stage 2.
I noticed a few subs delivering the results weeks after I stopped listening to them.
For me, it was the third cycle of Stage 1 that brought the freedom of porn temptations I sought. I felt like increasing loop duration from 3-5 minutes up to 15 minutes. And thatās what did the job.
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KB with NSE would be amazing. I could use that this year as itās looking more likely that I go through all the stages.
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Do you also think it might be possible if someone did 2 cycles of Khan black stage 1 and maybe did not get full healing but while listening to stage 2 got the healing he wanted?
The objectives of the stages are to different, Iād say. But blooming can still happen weeks after you stopped listening to stage 1.
For me it made a major difference that I listened to the full 15 minutes on my third cycle after two cycles of only 3 minute loops.
Saint confirmed that each sub contains 4 stages, each building upon the previous one.
So basically you get the same content 4 times but each time with more depth. So for me, I guess, there was something in the later stages that I needed.
So, I would at least advice, to start low but increase listening time over the 2 cycles, as long as recon doesnāt get to strong.
If you donāt get the results you wanted after 2 cycles and switched to stage 2 nevertheless, blooming could do the rest, or you could decide to come back to stage 1 after tye cycle.
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a new response that I get ćmight be helpful to some people 
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Thatās really great to know.
Looking forward to stage 4 in 5 months 
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day 7 of the washoutļ¼the last few days ļ¼sexual energy has been firing up stronglyā¦
at day 5ļ¼I was fired upļ¼excitedļ¼energeticā¦having a really strong sexual presenceā¦the Hunter vibe is really strongā¦mixing with primal aggressiveness and wildnessā¦just felt like there is no bound to meā¦self worthļ¼self efficiency is strongly feltā¦
at day 6ļ¼calm down a little bitļ¼but I could still felt the undercurrent streamingā¦ready to attack at any momentā¦I felt much more self controlā¦like a wild animal ambushing the preyā¦
at day 7ļ¼todayļ¼I feel this energy rising up againā¦this raw sexual presence energy seems just always thereā¦when I lookļ¼naturally my eyes will just show this hunter ās eye shapeā¦energy coming out from themā¦ā¦
it seems my body is still adjusting to this new found reservoir of energyā¦I guess there will be more to comeā¦ 
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Can i stack stage 1 and 2, i have ran stage one for one cycle already?
Not a good idea. I did that with Dragon Reborn . It wasnāt fun
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But these 2 stages are like 2 different titles. Stage one heals sexuality and stage 2 is about purifying the energetic system.
Technically, yes, you can; but I might wait until after you feel youāve reached a plateau with stage 1. Actively processing and growing with both at the same time, doesnāt make much sense. Like actively doing 4th and 5th grade in school at the same time. Youāll probably learn more and faster by mastering 4th grade first.
But after youāve pretty much grasped 4th grade and are actively working through 5th grade, thereās nothing wrong with going back to those 4th grade books to review and consolidate.
So, thatās why I would say wait until youāve plateaued on stage 1.
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Yea it seems to be more optimal this way.
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