Main Disc. Thread - HERO Origins: Sage and a Blade (Now Available! Q Core for Customs Available!)

[RockyHandsome]

6 mins of terninus custom hero origins/spartan apex. Feel double the effects !!!.

Random girls i dont recall ever talking to are saying hello to me as i was walking down the road. Git a whole lot of mundane stuff sorted out today.

[RockyHandsome]

@Leandros

Omg This is Starlord level

I feel like a God !!!

@SaintSovereign what is this god like effect ?

Did yoy add some kind of immortal code in terminus !!!

[SaintSovereign]

@RockyHandsome

6 mins of terninus custom hero origins/spartan apex. Feel double the effects !!!.

You’ve been running HERO: Origins for so long that it’s easy for you to integrate the script, even in Terminus. I mean, I’m pretty sure you hold the record for longest usage of HeO, lol.

[Antares]

Thoughts on stacking this with WB?

[William]

@Antares

Thoughts on stacking this with WB?

Great, but it can be kitchensink-y from my experience.

I’ve been stacking them both and cycling them in & out of my stack for a long while.
I can assure you that there’s no problem with compatibility overall.

Reduce the exposure to one of them if you feel the balance is off.

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Edit:
I searched this thread since I remembered I did answer the same question about WB. Here was my answer back then. This much time has passed, yet my answer is still the same, even after years.

The kitchensinky-ness is better than back then, but that did take me a long time to figure out.

@William

@RockyHandsome

How does Hero stack with WB

I did this.
In my case, they don’t clash as my moral values don’t restrict me from following WB’s objectives.
If anything, they worked well together. Covering each other and combining to enhance their effects.

But the more I ponder about it, the more I understand what saint meant by both going their completely separate ways. Stacking both of them is kitchen-sink-ish. You gotta prepare to take action for both HeO and WB. They’ll pull you in different directions. If you think you can spend time on both, then you might be able to give it a try.

Adding Alchemist: Singularity is also a good idea. The sub is all about uniting opposites after all.

Edit:

What I wrote about their synergy back then:

@William

they intermingle with each other. Like WB manifesting “situations” that helped with HeO’s goal of mastery, then the act of pursuing mastery itself helped with WB’s goals and so on.

I don’t feel like they compromise each other’s results, if anything, they are helping each other instead.

I also wrote in my journal about how they adapt with each other in my mind

@William

The unexpected synergy between HeO & WB

I thought these two were going to clash. But my subconscious assured me that they would blend just fine.

Every time i thought about it, my mind immediately gave logical cues & imageries to assure me that they would run together just fine. It also showed me how the subs could support each other. Imagine a more mysterious version musashi or a righteous wingliss. Imagine how the spins can enhance each other in their own unique ways.

It’s as if my mind was telling me that it has found a way to reconcile with HeO & WB being in the same stack in the first place. Thinking about how it would not blend is worrying over nothing.

All i have to do is to be open minded and listen.

[bujin]

@SaintSovereign

I mean, I’m pretty sure you hold the record for longest usage of HeO, lol.

No @William has, by a long shot. He’s just not loud about it.

[William]

Not loud anymore, lol.

I was active in talking about it back then, until I realised I’ve been repeating the same talking points over and over again since I don’t want to get into too much personal information online.

It all boils down to one thing:
If you use it long enough, HeO can potentially help you get to a level of fulfilment you didn’t know possible. The mastery, the virtues, the enhancement, everything works in tandem to help you live that calling in you.

This is one of my favourite subs.

[RockyHandsome]

Hero Origins can work as an enchancer by the sheer resilience it gives you which might serve as a vehicle for other products to work far better.

[RockyHandsome]

@William

you get to a level of fulfilment y

This is what i also wanted to say but it could not find the correct word. Fufilement it is. Fulfilment, comfortable with yourself.

[RockyHandsome]

@SaintSovereign might be useful to your customers if you could replicate the resilience of hero O into a synergy module.

Sure it can be done

[RockyHandsome]

Hey Hero brothers

I have swtiched to my hero origins/spartan apex/wanted physical shifting module custom.

Lets see what fate awaits me !!!.

[RockyHandsome]

I will continue running my hero origins custom and stack it with wanted dream boy custom to give myself the romantic hero fascade.

[Layman]

The Hero/Spartan custom sounds amazing, and combined with WDB sounds even better!
Looking forward to hearing your results on this one

[RockyHandsome]

I think a lot of people wade through life feeling completely lost, never really understanding, at their core, what truly excites them and drives them.

For example, @SaintSovereign wants to add value to the world and help every person, no matter who they are, achieve their full potential using subs.

and he genuinely loves doing it.

For me personally, it’s Escrima, Kali, and close-combat-based martial arts. That’s what lights a fire in me. It gives me energy, purpose, and something I genuinely want to keep developing.

I believe Hero Origins can help you immensely by helping you discover what truly drives you what you naturally enjoy, what gives you a sense of purpose, and what makes you feel most alive.

If i was stuck on island alone give me two sticks and i am happy to train a long time until i am reacued lol. Without feeling lonely scared etc.

[RockyHandsome]

@Layman

The Hero/Spartan custom sounds amazing, and combined with WDB sounds even better!
Looking forward to hearing your results on this one

I did 6 mins of hero and 3 mins of WLB custom

Feel alittle drained will have to drop my listening time to 3 mins per custom or less to find my sweet spot.

[Azriel]

Is there any value in ever having ‘definitions’ as guiding post for people to grow beyond themselves?

I’ve learned definitions of things sometimes and its caused more growth in my clear understanding of what to me seemed like a greater truth or perspective then what I had access on my own previously.

I understand it may create more ‘resistance’ to this, but how, on a certain level, aren’t we just cultivating strong senses of our own beliefs and conditions if we continually define thigns within the limits we already have?

(not a challenge, just would love to understand this perspective more)

[SaintSovereign]

@Azriel

I understand it may create more ‘resistance’ to this, but how, on a certain level, aren’t we just cultivating strong senses of our own beliefs and conditions if we continually define thigns within the limits we already have?

Good question.

All of our titles have features and scripting that helps the person break beyond self-imposed and societal limitations. This allows you to create your own definitions of what these terms mean while expanding them / pushing beyond boundaries. Case in point:

@Azriel

I’ve learned definitions of things sometimes and its caused more growth in my clear understanding of what to me seemed like a greater truth or perspective then what I had access on my own previously.

This is probably partially the result of that scripting. You created / explored your own definitions and then used them to enhance your own knowledge, understanding and ultimately, results. Now, when we say “universalize,” what we mean is that we are stripping concepts down to their core – something everyone can understand and express in their own way. For example, I think we all have some similar idea of what “courage” means – developing and employing inner strength to confront and overcome obstacles. However, what the script won’t do is tell you HOW to express courage, because our way of “confronting obstacles” may not be your way. The goal is to limit the producer’s expression of an idea while helping the customers expand their own definition.

This is why action taking or “external” facing titles are just as important as the inner cultivation titles. While we’ve focused on inner cultivation for awhile (to develop that technology and give more customer choice), we do not consider inner cultivation “better” because they are two sides of the same coin. You need the inner framework to hold the external results. but also the drive to actually build what’s happening on the inside. If we attempted to TELL you what to do through a script, if that doesn’t fit you exactly, you’d reject the script.

Think of it this way: we know our audience base. The majority – if not all – of the people here, or even come to this industry as a whole, tends to carry some level of anti-authoritarianism. They don’t like people telling them what to do, even if it doesn’t express outwardly. But the fact that an individual is even willing to engage with this industry, which society at large turns their nose up at, indicates that some part of them has decided that the “authorities” no longer get to dictate what is true for them.

And so, if the subliminal producer then begins to act like a philosopher king, dictating what is “good” and “bad” for that audience, and then has the audacity to push this in their scripts – what would happen? And thus, we based ZP and ZPU completely around the idea of expansion and freedom for the user. That’s one of the reasons we hired this particular Legal and Ethics team, to push back against OUR ideas and ensure that the titles fulfill that high standard.

I’ll give you an example – when I was discussing the original idea for the Chosen remake with them, they immediately pushed back (like many on the forum) with it containing Emperor style empire building. Their question to me was exacting and precise (just the way I like it). They were aware with my frustration with the “elites,” (since this was around the time the “files” were released), and questioned whether empire building was something the customers wanted in Chosen, or if my personal frustrations became a crusade to build a title that would help develop more positive, conscientious leaders.

And so — I posed the question and my thoughts on the idea to the community instead to allow them to give feedback. And that interaction led directly to the development of REFORGED, a much more universal approach to the idea of wealth building within a title like Chosen.

This is how we operate. There is a lot of lively, sometimes intense debate, plus customer feedback, all for the purposes of creating the most universalized, yet effective titles that we can.

[Philemon]

Something I like to do whenever I start a new title is to explore what some of the topics or goals means to me.

For example with hero origins I explored alot what mastery meant to me, aswell as each of the values.

Just that alone helps to give you a north star when taking action on a title.
IE: Mastery (to me) is not a state or destination an individual reaches but an attitude. Someone that bring curiosity to their craft and approaches it as a beginner in humility. But the big differentiating factors from humility are experience and practice. Someone that has reached a great level but approaches it as a beginner in thinking they can always learn more or become better.

Im still only 2 months into my hero origins journey and I expect over time my personal definitions will change, but defining it initially I have found is important for effective action taking.

[SaintSovereign]

@Philemon

Something I like to do whenever I start a new title is to explore what some of the topics or goals means to me.

For example with hero origins I explored alot what mastery meant to me, aswell as each of the values.

This is a really good strategy.