Main Disc. Thread - HERO Origins: Sage and a Blade (Now Available! Q Core for Customs Available!)

Product Discussion
#962

I didn’t get recon from the virtue scripting, but I also aggressively microlooped HeO for the first 2 cycles before I realized I could run 15m just fine. So maybe the recon was squashed in those initial cycles before it had the chance to manifest.

And HeO will give you a good foundation to stand & take on said higher path.

You’ll be properly guided so that you end up in the best position to carry it out.
It will feel less of a sacrifice because you know you do it for something higher than yourself.
The most important thing is to remember that you’re in full control over yourself. It’s an SC sub after all.

If you don’t want to take that “loss”, you don’t need to. Some things I just don’t give a fuck about and I’m not in recon because of it. Everything depends on your focus, values and how you want to carry it out. It’s not guiding you to lofty ideals outside of your reach, it’s guiding you to be a better version of yourself. And maybe you’ll see the value in taking that “loss” one day.

You don’t have to be completely selfless either in pursue of the virtues. I’m as selfish as I’m selfless in it. HeO will guide you to the best practical path you can take to follow the virtues.

Once the virtue scripting has seeped in & built a good foundation, it will feel as if it’s the most natural path to take. That’s why I said it’s a long term sub. It will take time for this to properly take place within you. But once it does, HeO will be the best sub you’ll ever use. I can’t convey it through words, you just gotta experience it yourself to understand the values of what it can bring to your life.

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#963

Even if you get slapped? Hope not

#965

To me its not about being a hero in the traditional sense. Its about not having to bend over backwards. Be the one who does what he says and knowing what I feel is exactly right for me.

This is only reason i am running hero its to get the unbreakable confidence to smash through these barriers to reach my goals if this means having to be selfish and not putting others first then so be it.

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#967

Please don’t ask ridiculous questions.

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#969

Remember the sub is like a finger pointing away to the moon. Dont concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.

#970

Its my second cycle of hero i am now able to execute a full loop without issues.

Previously i was micro looping because i was hitting recon due to what i believe was the virtue scripting.

#971

Sorry to hear about your parents.

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#972

The update for HeO & the new HERO sub might come sooner than we expected :person_fencing:

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#973

We’ve gotta figure out how to get it under 8 stages, rofl. I might just roll with it. It’s… it’s just an ambitious title and I really want to talk about it, but we’ve dealt with so much idea stealing recently that we’re keeping it very close to the chest.

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#974

Pointing at me? What did I do?

#975

I’m willing to purchase it as an 8 stager… bundle that and sell it to me separately…

#976

@SaintSovereign While I understand the intention behind the virtue scripting guiding users toward morally sound decision making. I’ve found that, in some real world scenarios, it creates inner conflict when the “virtuous” decision isn’t practical or aligned with the current situation I’m facing. I do not want to disclose the details it can be painful at times. Just so you know I am running Hero as a custom with Khan black stage 3.

If you can please explore the possibility of disabling or bypassing the virtue scripting…thanks.

#977

haha

The finger points to the truth.

The subliminal is just a guide.

#978

Any news on the Hero: Origins update? Don’t mean to pester,im just looking for a single subliminal to help me become a pro athlete and then stack with Stark/Stark Black for fame,sponsers and brand deals

#979

Isn’t it already in the sub?
I’ve used it for a year and can tell that I’m in full control of it.

Sometimes it’s just a part of the game. I’ve made some “sub-optimal” (to put it lightly) life decisions or what some have said “sacrifices” just for the sake of mastery and the virtues. Most are completely worth it. The more you let the virtue scripting seep into your life, the more you understand the values of what adhering to it can give you.

I’ve also refused to take some. The virtue scripting is not asking you to do the impossible. It’s helping you to get closer to that ideal, to the point where taking action that fulfils it feels like the most natural thing to do. We are in full control.

Well, at least that’s how the scripting works with me. It’s different for everyone to a degree.
I can’t remember a recon from not taking the “virtuous” decision.
Instead, HeO helps me build my character so I’d be much more inclined to take it.

I wish the best for your current situation though.

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#980

Thanks @Viktor I think its just i am going through some challenging times. Times when you wish you could change things for the better but you cannot.

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#981

I amd planning to upgrade my existing HERO origins custom subliminal to include modules that support heart health, protect against brain-related disorders, and promote overall longevity. Could you suggest any modules for that? So far, I’ve seen the following ones which i might include

Epigenetics & DNA Modulator
Cardiovascular System
SPS: Nervous System

For obvious reasons i do not want to add too many modules.

#982

On the contrary, these are the moments with the virtue scripting shines. Virtue isn’t about being weak. If you must draw the metaphorical blade to strike, then draw your blade and strike. But take no pleasure from what must be done to protect yourself.

Wisdom from Master Laozi.

The fact that you are torn represents growth. Turning back now means falling back into older cycles and habits. You’ve got this.

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Philosophy Corner, Exploring Truth Together
#983

It’s tricky because it’s based on what we think of us virtuous, not some objective standard isn’t it?

I do sales as one career

It’s a high-quality service that creates incredible results for some people and great results for others, and then there are people who have a bad experience. A fair amount. But for some others its the most lifechanging thing ever for them.

I’m not on the service side, just the sales side. I care so much that my leads and clients have great experiences and get results. Its one of the reasons I’m good at sales, but if I were truly moral in my own view, I would tell people that- I would steer certain people away from the service etc. (I already actually do both those things to an extent) I’m concerned virtue scripting is in fact at an impasses with what is always practical or results driven.

While the dream is to have a fully aligned life—with no compromise or ‘selling out’ even slightly to own one’s values and integrity — values and integrity were not always there. We all not there. I certainly am not.

I might not even know how to navigate that. One spiritual teacher said-its not always the right thing to do to take away some else’s pain.

Could having a bad experience ultimately be in their best interest? Could my concern for them morally prevent them from having the results they’re looking for? Where do I draw the line on what is moral? I have people in my life I feel doing the ethical thing would profoundly hurt them or even myself in certain situations. What about when desire opposes morality, when I only have my limited prospective to ascertain? I’m curious how virtue scripting balances with this.

I speak from conception, not experience, since I have not run HERO for exactly this reason.

From my understanding, TWTP had no morality. Wouldn’t virtue scripting massively temper that sub’s ability?

Perhaps I have virtue as inherently opposed to efficacy, practicality, and politics.

#984

With these types of titles, where there’s an ability to gain strength and / or skills beyond what is considered normal (relative to the individual), you will always find morality scripting and that’s non-negotiable. We won’t put out any title that allows an individual to develop skills to terrorize or harm the public.

Given that the scripting can be expressed in a manner that resonates with you, the user always has agency. That way, if an individual attempts to abuse this title or any other like it, they will have no choice but to accept what they have done rather than claiming “the sub made them do it” or any other nonsense.

These are the terms by which we will make these titles. That will not change, regardless of rhetoric. We have a duty not only to our customers, but to the public at large.

Every title at Subliminal Club contains some form of mild morality scripting, and all the titles have the aim of uplifting humanity on some level. TWTP was largely scripted for defense against manipulation, not giving you the ability to manipulate others.

These types of things will never change. Wasn’t a problem then, isn’t a problem now, where suddenly people want to become villains and want us to create titles that allow them to manipulate others, and now the topic of morality is suddenly some kind of issue where there wasn’t before. Everyone’s still out there making money, getting laid, generating sales, etc. And I’m sure there’s people attempting to abuse the titles to do negative things. There’s only a certain level of preventing this that we are capable of doing, and that’s by gearing all the scripts toward positivity and uplifting humanity.

Again, wasn’t an issue then, not an issue now.

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