Main Disc. Thread - HERO Origins: Sage and a Blade (Now Available! Q Core for Customs Available!)

[Matrix]

@TheGreenMan

LotS can be pretty energy intensive, in combination with a new and dense sub even more so. How is your diet? Maybe try the spongecake approach?

Idk what to say abt my diet, i will say its pretty dull
I need to eat hostel food

So here

Morning:
Sometimes bread and butter/pasta/Roti(tortilla ig) and cooked vegetables, basically indian food

Afternoon:
Rice and cooked veggies

Night:

It depends , out of 7 days,
two days will be chicken,
1 day for egg,
2 days veg,
2 days-paneer(made from milk,indian food)

And yes,i have been skipping breakfast past some days bevause i keep getting late because i need to sleep late due to assignments and all

I do eat snacks at 6 pm or 7 pm. Which is straight up fat

[Matrix]

@Uber_Elysium

It could be both, have you had anything like this happen when you were just listening to just one of them?

What helps me is making sure I am drinking plenty of water and eating enough as well as getting plenty of rest. Also sometimes when it comes to physical shifting a lot of the grogginess that I get can sometimes be alleviated by just physical activity in general.

Going on a walk, doing some calisthenics just to warm up my body and muscles, even if I’m not working out, or even just stretching.

I think i will try just running HOSB and dropping LOTs,
I am on my rest day today, tomorrow i ill take another rest day and will continue after that

[Uber_Elysium]

@Matrix

And yes,i have been skipping breakfast past some days bevause i keep getting late because i need to sleep late due to assignments and all

I do eat snacks at 6 pm or 7 pm. Which is straight up fat

Try not to skip at least on listening days, but I can understand being too busy sometimes. Maybe try the snacks in the morning and see if that helps

[Matrix]

@Viktor

the feeling is similar to when I became really productive after I used mogul + DRLD. i did more stuff than usual and that made me have less energy.

Not in my case, while on HOSB , i was productive and that caused less energy too, but now whenever i am in my oom,i just lay down on my bed and do nothing, sometimes i go out for a walk and besides that i just play games on potato laptop

This recon might be due to Lots bevaise its energy intensive as @TheGreenMan said

[Matrix]

@Uber_Elysium

Try not to skip at least on listening days, but I can understand being too busy sometimes. Maybe try the snacks in the morning and see if that helps

Ok i will do that, i think skipping breakfast continuously for a week led me to this, plus i accidentally skipped lunch day before yesterday because i was just taking a nap , but being o tired i straight up slept like three hours, and when i woke up, it was 6 pm.
Anyway i ate some street food later on(i avoid these but here i have not many options).

[Matrix]

Ok @TheGreenMan and @Uber_Elysium
For now i just want to lose fat, do you think adding EMP Fitness stage 2 will be better in this case ? I just want to lose some weights

[Uber_Elysium]

Tbh that is probably the issue lol. Even subs that don’t have physical shifting will burn calories, more so with the ones that do have physical shifting.

I have used customs that have had both Wanted Black and Spartan and now my stack has Wanted Black(custom) and Hero and I am fine, I am even slimming down and putting on mass. I still eat a bit more though, but I also take supplements to help with nutrition

[TheGreenMan]

I found the spongecake method very helpful to determine If your stack is too draining. When feeling drained eat a proper piece of energy rich, processed cake or something similar. If it’s getting quickly better, your stack is prob too draining.

[Matrix]

@Uber_Elysium

Tbh that is probably the issue lol. Even subs that don’t have physical shifting will burn calories more so with the ones that do have physical shifting.

I have used customs that have had both Wanted Black and Spartan and now my stack has Wanted Black(custom) and Hero and I am fine, I am even slimming down and putting on mass. I still eat a bit more though, but I also take supplements to help with nutrition

Yes, i see how LOTS and dense program like HO can cause this, i will take care of my diet and not being careless abt it

[Uber_Elysium]

Also if you want to use Emp Fitness 2 that’s fine, LOTS will get you there too, but Emp Fitness 2 is more streamlined and will probably get you there faster.

[TheGreenMan]

It should be lighter than LotS, but I don’t have much experience with EF2. Had it only in one custom afair.

[Matrix]

@Uber_Elysium

Also if you want to use Emp Fitness 2 that’s fine, LOTS will get you there too, but Emp Fitness 2 is more streamlined and will probably get you there faster.

Yes that’s what i thought, because EF st2 is more geared towards fat loss

[Matrix]

@TheGreenMan

It should be lighter than LotS, but I don’t have much experience with EF2. Had it only in one custom afair.

I see, i will try a week or so with EFst2 , hopefully this wouldn’t be as energy intensive as LOTS

[Matrix]

@TheGreenMan

I found the spongecake method very helpful to determine If your stack is too draining. When feeling drained eat a proper piece of energy rich, processed cake or something similar. If it’s getting quickly better, your stack is prob too draining

Interesting, will try

[mvargo]

A bit off topic but I was looking for the Book of Five Rings in Singapore airport today even though I’m not running HOSB (yet).

I wasn’t there but I had one over these moments where a book on the shelf just speaks to you. The book I picked up is called Thick Face, Black Heart and I’ve never noticed it in the EU/US.

The book is written by a Chinese woman and has its own take on the warrior archtype (to some not a very virtuous version) and it has blown me away so far. So definitely a strong recommendation for anyone who wants to sculpt his inner warrior.

[Lion]

@Tomcat

Why not just name it HOSB?

Yes of course:

@Lion

HOSB

[SaintSovereign]

We haven’t just suggested it, it’s confirmed in the copy. This is not the magnum opus version of HERO. That’s awhile away. This is the beginning of the journey.

[Prioritas]

How would the combat scripting in this sub work for someone who doesn’t practice martial arts or anything like that?

Will it push us to start a practice? Will it build up in our mind as unprocessed sub information?

[Simon]

@Lion

Yes of course

We also have the official acronym … HeO.

[Deadpool]

Interesting. I was suggesting the same. Call me Achilles the Wise

@Deadpool

I like this, also it could be HEO.
In the future following titles could be like HEA, HED …