Main Disc. Thread - HERO Origins: Sage and a Blade (Now Available! Q Core for Customs Available!)

Yea, I guess he’s a new podcaster it sounds like. Naval is a guy who rarely does podcasts they say. His episodes from JRE and Tim Ferris are highly regarded.

With hero i have an inner voice which keeps telling me to keep on running hero even though i have no intention to be a hero. Its the sheer boldness and courage this product gives me which makes me carry on despite the ups and downs.

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I swear this is spooky in the gym guys will say to me “I am not on good form today not pushing as much weight as I usually do” another girl commented “Hi I not lifting so much on the dead lift today because I am not 100%”. I dont give a toss LOL why do i care ?.

Is anyone else getting comments like this whilst running hero ? @SaintSovereign did you get comments like this ?

I do see people make excuses, but to get more than the usual under HeO? I either don’t get it or it’s one of the effects that got so natural after my 12 cycle run of the sub that I can’t tell whether it was HeO’s doing or not anymore. All I know is people always make excuses and try to look good. It’s just a part of life and I have nothing against it.

Never noticed it in the gym though since I built my own home gym, rofl.

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I was on Chosen and I’m not the the most shredded low fat guy. But I was at work one time and this guy was sort of downplaying himself calling himself chubby or just pointing out that he doesn’t work out. But he saw me as higher status and someone who works out.

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You’re giving off an aura of virtuous authority and mastery. They’re apologizing to the natural alpha that they sense.

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Thats increditable !!!

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I went to the hospital today as i entered the reception. One of the nurses said “Good Morning Doctor”. . I gave her a warm smile amd told i am not a doctor.

Then later i went to gym heath store. The same girl was there from the previous weeks i commented upon. She saiid “Morning I try to do my as best i could with my hair but did not have time”

I told her it looks fine :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

This guy in the shop asked if i was in the navy seals as he recognized me from from one of the youtube videos. I told him i was not lol.

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There is more to this product then meets the eye.

I am not into young women in their 20s but for guys who are it will create a magnetic presence
around you. They are drawn to you for guidance.

One girl who is 18 years old who works in the cafe. She came upto me and said I missed you where have you been. I laughed and said we chatted two days ago lol. She smiled then began chatring away to me.

Had a couple of other similar experiences bits its too much to write.

Began the Wim Hoff breathing exercises each morning. Spent time investing in various supplements to enhance mind and body.

Also bought an air purifier for my appartment.

All this happened yesterday today i feel like sh*t today dont know why will take a few days break from listening.

Despite feeling like shit today. I decided i need to out and do something. So i went to the gym did a good workout with the weights. Then spent some time in front of the UV light in the sauna.

Slowly picked myself up. Then the funny thing is afterwards i went to another cafe and the barrister a girl in her 20s who i had not seen in a while shouted “heyy Rocky how are you”. I had not been to this cafe in a month.

I asked for a cappinco and went to pay. She replied today its free for you. I began chatring away to her felt better after that.

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Hero:O always intrigued me. But I‘m somehow still afraid to run it. I‘m just a mere mortal, I make mistakes, I believe in the lies that I do tell myself although I know that this does not always serve me well. I lack the courage to unveil my true colours because I fear that inside I‘m ugly.

„Achieve a multidimensional level of honesty—true to self, word, and actions.“ - Could I stand this honesty?

Question at everyone who‘s used H:O: does it still make it possible to enjoy life and its delights? Can one be light-hearted and easy-going with all these rather earnest topics?
GLM made me too stern and deprived of a fun life. I didn‘t like that. Can anyone compare?

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Yes it does i am fun and flirty on it I speak for myself.

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These two parts of your post are probably the best argument for running HeO with its focus on heroic courage, physical/mental resilience, and respect for yourself.

Although it doesn’t focus on light heartedness or easy-going (the calm and composed comes closest), you could always stack with something like DD, TS or AHJ, or choose a “craft” that allows these qualities to come through.

Another thing is that practicing a craft with dedication (whether it’s a martial art, or coding/writing, or spiritual development, etc), that tends to give you a joy or a sense of accomplishment that will translate over into other parts of your life.

Speaking for myself, I have connected with friends while running it and it has not affected my ability to have a good time. With that said, I’m not a big socialite, so others can probably speak more on that angle.

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I cannot comment in regards to the most recent version of GLM as i have never used it.

However when using the ZP version alomf time ago i felt very serious and the vibe scared people away.

Hero gives me confidence not reckless condidence but humble confidence.

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HeO amplifies this.
It’s actually the sub’s biggest strength.
I have never felt as fulfilled in my life.
HeO IS the fulfilment sub.

I’m as lighthearted as before I started HeO.
The sub doesn’t touch this at the slightest.

You might become more serious as an indirect effect, but the sub itself is more focused on mastery and the virtues. HeO is incredibly inward facing compared to the other subs i’ve ever used.

HeO isn’t about unreachable ideals.
It’s about helping you build your character to be as close to it.
Not just honesty, but also the other virtues.

HeO is more gentle than you’re imagining it.
It’s about being the best version of yourself.
And one day you’ll realize you are closer to those ideals than before you started the sub.


What i think is the most important, is whether you feel the calling from it or not. If it is a path you know you want to follow, HeO may become the best sub you’ll ever use.

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10/10 post I agree with what you said. Infact the virtue scripting you can utilise for many purposes if you can guide consciously.

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As I mentioned in an earlier post, virtue scripting isn’t that big of a deal. It’s more like a mentor gently whispering in your ear perhaps someting like, “Hey, if you take this path, you’ll grow as a person, become better, and learn more about yourself.”

But it never forces you. You’re always free to choose a different path if that feels right for you. but it does for sure bring out your strenghts at the same time make you aware of things that can be improved. I use it because it gives me the confidence to deal with meetings at work, challenging the developers, knowing what to say even if I might be wrong and If i am wrong I will be honest and say hey your right i just learned something new today :slight_smile: . I am no longer afraid of being wrong which was one of my issues.

Dont get me wrong I am still having my ups and downs with hero but hey its nature of the beast.

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Not trying to be rude, but why do people seem to think that having virtue means you can’t have fun or enjoy life? There’s no need for dualistic thinking. There’s no “if I’m a virtuous person, that must mean that I am boring and a prude.”

@emperor_obewan 's and @Viktor 's posts are very good as well.

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I fehlt the same way on GLM ZP_v1. Never used it again then.

Thank you for your replies everyone, gives me some food for thought.

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No offense taken. If I would know why I do think this way, I wouldn‘t ask. Maybe influence by media but I think most certainly because of a lack of real-life examples. Everyone knows or at least can think of a rich person or a womanizer or someone who enjoys his life by being adventurous. But I‘ve never met someone I‘d consider to be a hero. No one I can think of would be called virtuous. Being virtuous would well be able to cause a moral dilemma. Do I follow all official rules just to be rightful, although I know these rules are arbitrary and far from morally right? Do I break some legal restrictions because I follow my own rules and thus being authentic? Will I then take the risk for even severe punishment because I‘m honest and do admit the breach of laws? This would be someone I‘d consider a hero. But apart from movies, these kind of people more often than not will sacrifice their lifes. And even then, every one has his dark side.