I cannot comment in regards to the most recent version of GLM as i have never used it.
However when using the ZP version alomf time ago i felt very serious and the vibe scared people away.
Hero gives me confidence not reckless condidence but humble confidence.
HeO amplifies this.
Itâs actually the subâs biggest strength.
I have never felt as fulfilled in my life.
HeO IS the fulfilment sub.
Iâm as lighthearted as before I started HeO.
The sub doesnât touch this at the slightest.
You might become more serious as an indirect effect, but the sub itself is more focused on mastery and the virtues. HeO is incredibly inward facing compared to the other subs iâve ever used.
HeO isnât about unreachable ideals.
Itâs about helping you build your character to be as close to it.
Not just honesty, but also the other virtues.
HeO is more gentle than youâre imagining it.
Itâs about being the best version of yourself.
And one day youâll realize you are closer to those ideals than before you started the sub.
What i think is the most important, is whether you feel the calling from it or not. If it is a path you know you want to follow, HeO may become the best sub youâll ever use.
10/10 post I agree with what you said. Infact the virtue scripting you can utilise for many purposes if you can guide consciously.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, virtue scripting isnât that big of a deal. Itâs more like a mentor gently whispering in your ear perhaps someting like, âHey, if you take this path, youâll grow as a person, become better, and learn more about yourself.â
But it never forces you. Youâre always free to choose a different path if that feels right for you. but it does for sure bring out your strenghts at the same time make you aware of things that can be improved. I use it because it gives me the confidence to deal with meetings at work, challenging the developers, knowing what to say even if I might be wrong and If i am wrong I will be honest and say hey your right i just learned something new today 
. I am no longer afraid of being wrong which was one of my issues.
Dont get me wrong I am still having my ups and downs with hero but hey its nature of the beast.
Not trying to be rude, but why do people seem to think that having virtue means you canât have fun or enjoy life? Thereâs no need for dualistic thinking. Thereâs no âif Iâm a virtuous person, that must mean that I am boring and a prude.â
@emperor_obewan 's and @Viktor 's posts are very good as well.
I fehlt the same way on GLM ZP_v1. Never used it again then.
Thank you for your replies everyone, gives me some food for thought.
No offense taken. If I would know why I do think this way, I wouldnât ask. Maybe influence by media but I think most certainly because of a lack of real-life examples. Everyone knows or at least can think of a rich person or a womanizer or someone who enjoys his life by being adventurous. But Iâve never met someone Iâd consider to be a hero. No one I can think of would be called virtuous. Being virtuous would well be able to cause a moral dilemma. Do I follow all official rules just to be rightful, although I know these rules are arbitrary and far from morally right? Do I break some legal restrictions because I follow my own rules and thus being authentic? Will I then take the risk for even severe punishment because Iâm honest and do admit the breach of laws? This would be someone Iâd consider a hero. But apart from movies, these kind of people more often than not will sacrifice their lifes. And even then, every one has his dark side.
Well, I can assure you that thereâs no scripting that would compel you to sacrifice your own life, or humor. These are more projections than anything else. The copy contains exactly what this title is about. This is a title about virtuous mastery, with an emphasis on the mastery part. This is about wisdom. And people are ignoring parts like this:
What @SaintSovereign said is correct.
Iâll also point out the following, that this type of thinking is exactly the type of thinking one needs to start working with in order to develop their belief and virtue system.
Itâs not black and white. Itâs something that organically forms as the subconscious mind works with the subliminal input, and such questions start arising.
When this happens, itâs a good time to start digging even deeper into what your beliefs on virtue actually are, and to of course take action.
But, as @SaintSovereign pointed out, itâs important to be careful with projections. Basing your beliefs on projections will simply end up with you being stuck and having to deal with them later on.
There are many paths to virtue. Donât get stuck on a projection/falsity.
You can be as selfish as you want with HeO.
Youâre in full control.
HeO will find ways to incorporate your preference with the virtues.
Youâll start finding selfish reasons to adhere to selfless acts.
There were many occasions where I said âyeah no, whatâs in it for me?â, âthatâs unfortunate but i donât careâ or most importantly âwhy the fuck would i do that?â
I got 0 recon from those. Not then, not now.
What HeO does is guiding me & building my character to be more likely to take the options that are based on the virtues. But when it comes to choosing which option to take, youâll maintain full control. The only difference is youâll come from a place with a more solid foundation & better reasons to pick the virtuous path.
It can be hard to see the value of taking the ârightâ path, but thatâs why you use HeO to begin with. Use the sub for a long time, let the virtue scripting seeps in & takes root. Youâll understand what i mean.
HeO is still an SC sub. Itâs Zero Point.
Just like every other subs here, you are in full control.
Tomorrow, Iâm stacking my Stark custom with my Hero/KB3 build. Letâs see what kind of powerhouse that creates. Perhaps I will become a power ranger who knows. Maybe go into God Mode,
Alright, thank you very much for your answers. Iâll give it a try after Iâve finished my current EmpD cycle and washed out for two weeks or so.
He is right Hero does build character. I am surprised more members are not using this glorious product.
Personally I can say that while I felt a strong pull towards Hero, my ego made me not run it (ironic isn´t it), bc I´ve had deep wounds around being able to just âlet goâ and enjoy my life.
âDon´t do it, you´ll just get even more serious, you already push yourself too muchâ
I love Khan (+ Khan Black), and it helps me become a better person as well. The less I care about others opinions, the more I can be my true self, which apparently automatically translates into being virtuos.
But if I were to remake my custom (which could happen sooner than later), I´d definetly run Khan and Hero together.
Exactly. Virtue in this title isnât about forcing you become something, but rather helping you become a higher expression of your true self. All of our titles are based on exploration of the self â the Zero Point.
You practice Tantra⌠nice to meet you!
Not yet brother, but both Khans push me towards exploring it 
