Main Disc. Thread - Heartsong ZP

[Joa23]

@Golgo13

care to share how these two titles worked together for you?

LBFH and Heartsong works beautifully together, they synergize by taking care of both the inner and outer aspects of love, whether it is self love or your ability to love someone else and learn how to express it.

The healing can be quite intense though, I remember having lots of recon as I went deep into understanding why and how I developed a worldview of scarcity when it comes to self love or the many conflicts I experienced in my love life through the years.
Why I had such a closed off heart and the process of opening it, was quite challenging.

An example:

@Joa23

I had this distressing dream about my girlfriend… sex, infidelity, lying, disloyalty, fighting… the whole thing. The most disturbing of all was that at the peak of the conflict she wasnt my actual girlfriend anymore, but my first one. My first girlfriend was a complete mess, as I was too… that could easily be used as an example of toxic relationships.

I woke up with the feeling that I need to forgive her… so I dont project those awful experiences and insecurities into my current relationship.

Now Im doing exactly that… forgiving and letting go.

On the other side of the tunnel the payoff after any and all recon was absolutely amazing. My relationship blossomed with better communication, amazing sex life and the understanding of why we are so good together and how to build on those values.

This quote summarizes the changes and lessons…

“Lovers who only pursue the joys of visible flesh have never succeeded in becoming united, nor in loving each other. When they lie side by side in their beds, they are nevertheless far apart, separated by an impassable thread of air, by the sword of forgetfulness; because they will never dream the same dream. Each of them pursues his solitary road, without his companion. Only when lovers are capable of dreaming the same dream are they truly Lovers. When they love one another in their dreams.”

[Golgo13]

Wow. Beautiful quote. I’m strongly considering HS and LBFH in a custom. Were you already in a relationship? I’m wondering how fast and accurate the manifestation occurs with HS when it comes to attracting your true love. I know it depends on how much healing you need, but still curious.

[Joa23]

@Golgo13

Were you already in a relationship?

Yes I was.

@Golgo13

I’m wondering how fast and accurate the manifestation occurs with HS when it comes to attracting your true love. I know it depends on how much healing you need, but still curious.

I cant answer that question, but what I do know is the sooner you start the healing, the sooner you’ll be ready for that truly special someone.

The fact is that healing yourself will change whats important to you in a relationship and in a partner, in addition to that you become increasingly more immune to toxic behaviours and manipulation.

That will save you a lot of pain.

[Golgo13]

Appreciate the feedback.

[Golgo13]

@Malkuth Do you think Overdrive would make a romance and sex title like HS more successful? Overdrive uses words like success oriented thoughts and success oriented modules and cores. When I read that I think it would work for Emperor more than it would HS.

[Malkuth]

I see Overdrive as a module that empowers goal-directed activities and projects. So, in my opinion, it might be suitable for sex and seduction, but not for love, bonding, intimacy, and friendship. Those are not achievement or goal-directed contexts. They are more about joy, responsiveness, and alignment.

(In other words, I agree with you.)

[Malkuth]

@Golgo13

Do you think Overdrive would make a romance and sex title like HS more successful?

ps. I don’t view HS as a romance and sex title. I view it as a love and intimacy title.

[Golgo13]

Thanks.

[Golgo13]

@Malkuth Do you think adding Gorgeous Manifestor to a HS custom would be redundant since HS is already attracting your ideal woman, or would it amplify HS since it’s a Result Enhancer?

[Malkuth]

@Golgo13

@Malkuth Do you think adding Gorgeous Manifestor to a HS custom would be redundant since HS is already attracting your ideal woman, or would it amplify HS since it’s a Result Enhancer?

Only slightly redundant (in my opinion).

Gorgeous Manifestor is going to do much more than just attract your ideally beautiful woman. It’s going to increase the number of beautiful and sexually attractive women (plural) who are around you in general. And that’s probably not going to stop after you meet your ‘ideal’ woman. It literally manifests and attracts gorgeous women. And I think it does so for as long as you continue to play it and execute it.

There are people who have reasons for wanting that. It’s not just for sex and dating. You might be a filmmaker or a fashion show coordinator or music video director. Or you might work in the hotel and restaurant or nightclub business and just feel that the atmosphere of your space is better when there are more gorgeous people walking around. (I may be overstating this part. I’ve never run this module. And the description does say it attracts the ones who are interested in you specifically.)

Hmm…So, it’s not so much that it would be redundant with Heartsong. It’s that it might be overkill. If all you want is to meet one beautiful woman with whom you can develop a great relationship, then I think that you might be better off using the spot in your custom for something else. Unless you find that there’s some block to encountering attractive people for some reason, and need some extra help with it.

[Trader]

@Malkuth

Unless you find that there’s some block to encountering attractive people for some reason, and need some extra help with it.

Might even be a good idea to have a 2nd custom centered around Gorgeous Manifestor if so.

Stack the GM custom with the HS custom until the GM custom is no longer needed/wanted and keep HS custom going.

[Joa23]

All these questions about HS are ok, but have you ever ran HS with LBFH in a stack, to see if you even like it, before committing to a custom? @Golgo13

[Golgo13]

I haven’t. As far as liking it, I know that a lot of healing will be involved and I’m willing to go through that if it means finding true love and loving myself.

[Malkuth]

@Golgo13

I know that a lot of healing will be involved and I’m willing to go through that

Some of that healing will feel great.

[Brandon]

I suggest you run HS & LBFH/LB in a stack before you make a custom. I know is tempting to make a custom but you don’t know what it’ll do to you.

Edit: Whilst I know I ask questions too, people need to realise that, especially with ZP, everyone experiences the script differently. What someone else achieves you might not, your life is different and the way ZP will approach those objectives and results are going to be different for everyone.

Second edit: Not saying you won’t achieve similar results, just they might be of a lesser or higher priority to your subconscious.

[Golgo13]

Appreciate the suggestion and concern but I’m already running KB, WB, and a RM/UWX Custom. Don’t want to drop KB and my RM/UWX custom cause I’m using semen retention for creative ideas. And it seems to be working even though I’m running these titles 3 days in between cause of the 3 title stack. I’m on a washout now and I plan to replace WB with the HS/LBFH custom.