is that also in ascension ?
Thanks @irw i think its really nice to have women like yourself in the community as you share insights and observations which us men are sometimes too blind too see.
I do not believe ascension has any physical shifting as its one of these subs that evolves you into an “alpha male” as quickly as possible. So they kept the sub compact and straight to the point.
Physical shifting tech was introduced post-Ascension I believe. To combine them you’d have to add shifting modules to an Ascension core module in a custom.
It might be that some things are added during the rewrite to ZP of course.
I’m not explaining this well -the post has not been revised
there was a large post about my results from Emperor ZP.
I edited over it thinking I was posting something new (when I opened the forum I missed it was an edit, not a new post) Then I clicked save. I could not get the original postback. I’ll just chalk it up to just being gone. Thanks for looking.
I did it right, didn’t I @Azriel? I returned the original post (the forum software calls it Revision 1 even if it is the original). I found the second post as well a little below that so I knew what you meant. And the third revision was when you asked us to change it.
PS
Apparently there is a user callen Azriel2.0
I guess somebody figured they would be better at being you than you.
Yes, when I just went back on the original post had been re-added -awesome ! Thank you!
Azriel2.0 was me when my account got locked out hahaha better man than I’ll ever be, except he was me
There’s nothing about online dating on Libertine description.
Emperor ZP new effects kicking in
- My job - has become intolerable
- The sense of learning to come from and live with logic vs. acting from frustration and annoyance is a battle that has been highlighted
- Strong sense of dignity and honor being more important than money or survival- this is causing a bit of recon
- grappling with what it takes to achieve personal freedom financially -in a way where it’s on my mind all the time. Moving from victimization, concern, anger to what can I do now, how can I plan, what’s the smart move etc kind of thinking- this transition is back and forth so still in some recon here
- My sense of understanding new topics and grasping them and looking to learn new things is accerating.
Love reading your results @Azriel - since you ran the Q version of Emperor for a long time what are some of the major differences you’ve noticed in this ZP version vs. Q version so far?
Thanks @Ice
It’s hard to discern and hard to articulate. In terms of mechanism
ZP definitely feels more organic and natural which is double-edged.
On one hand, I can tell that I am really grappling and resolving what it will take internally and externally to reach the results/goals of the sub. There is recon but it’s very minor and normal and super clear what it’s about, it’s recon I can deal with proactively.
Then I can have moments of experiencing like I am in a different world, but this is only when I stay really authentic to myself and have courage.
On the other hand, it doesn’t have that sense of new lease on life that powers through day -to day. On Emperor Q it felt like I was a different person and could act differently and do things differently and I was driven by that greatly and consistently. It feels like ZP is building to that in its own way but not there yet.
It’s weird because ZP feels both more congruent and natural and also more distinct as it’s like I am straddling two worlds during recon.
In terms of the difference in results -keep in mind for Emperor ZP, I ran 1 loop last week and 2 loops this week.
Q -
- more consistent in drive, productivity
- easier time getting into focus and flow for things I didn’t care about or had to do
- More overt respect and deference, admiration
- stronger sense of lone wolf strength
- Stronger sense of confidence in my ability to succeed with risks, new endeavors, and where ever I chose to place myself
ZP-
- more intelligent in how I am productive
- Stronger flow and movement between working and not working
- Stronger flow and movement between socializing and being solo
- Stronger social skills and fluency
- More challenges, and shit tests, lest overt respect and deference and more ‘attraction, interest’
- More willingness to ‘play the game’ in hierarchies rather than burn things to the ground to have independence.
- Very Sexual
There are many more and will circle back as they pop up. I believe the trajectory of ZP is moving towards similar results from Q that may not have shown up yet.
My main goal for Emperor ZP is real confidence, clarity, and then execution externally on a new career and/or business that will create real financial independence for myself. This has been something I"ve been ‘working’ on for too long and it’s time for results starting with a clear and consistent aim (at the veyr least).
If I am honest part of me has lost ‘hope’ anything can change or what I can do differently or get myself to do differently. Or definitely pick and put energy and effort into one of the possibilities that are available that align with is congruent to my values, skillset, passion. I know this is all on me, my responsibility, but my goal is to resolve whatever is needed and/or move forward.
I will see if ZP can get me there, or help me have me get me there.

There’s nothing about online dating on Libertine description.
You won’t “Find” it by … Ctrl+F online …
But … if you do … Ctrl+F dating …
you’ll see …
written in BOLD …
be active on dating websites and applications

but shortens my fuse on annoyances internally
That would be my biggest annoyance with EmpZP: I easily get triggered internally by people not up to my standards. While reactions are controlable, I’s annoying especially coming from Khans unreactiveness.
I am having many similar results to @Azriel on Emperor. Disclaimer: I also have Stark in my stack.
I made the conscious decision to go from the mindset of disgruntled worker to purposely and intentionally developed the mind of a ceo.
I am starting to think before I act or say something and make sure it is in my best interest to do so and let the ramifications of action or inaction run through my head. Some fights that appear worth fighting for turn out to not be and some fights that seem stupid turn out to be incredibly important.
My confidence is rising everyday.
I also no longer have a burn the place to the ground mentality, more of a strategic how do I get the best outcome for what I need. Use this employment to develop the skills of a CEO.
The victim inside of me is slowly starting to disappear and a badass is taking its place.
I also am able to execute on things better than I ever could before. I was the stereotypical dreamer wannapreneur, but I am taking deliberate action to build the live of my desires.
I find myself being doing things I don’t want to do but need to get done, I usually was an individual that ignored problems or wait till the last moment or let it go long enough so my wife or someone else will deal with it.
I am getting better at taking initiative and doing things I haven’t done before.
I am tiptoes out of my comfort zone, this is going to take some time to get out of.
What BlackTiger said. Your insights are very much appreciated.

My main goal for Emperor ZP is real confidence, clarity, and then execution externally on a new career and/or business that will create real financial independence for myself. This has been something I"ve been ‘working’ on for too long and it’s time for results starting with a clear and consistent aim (at the veyr least).
If I am honest part of me has lost ‘hope’ anything can change or what I can do differently or get myself to do differently. Or definitely pick and put energy and effort into one of the possibilities that are available that align with is congruent to my values, skillset, passion. I know this is all on me, my responsibility, but my goal is to resolve whatever is needed and/or move forward.
I relate to this a lot.
It really gives me food for thought.
My goals are somewhat similar.
And I am also experiencing that sensation of ‘losing hope’. But it’s not really literally losing hope; it’s like losing excitement. (I actually suspect that what’s happening may be that the energy that was originally going into ‘hope’ and ‘excitement’ is currently tied up in building real-world manifestations. But in the interim, I notice that ‘decreased’ sensation.)
And that makes me think of another point about ZP, which may sound kind of funny. It’s almost like ZP is the ultra-sheer, ultra-thin condom (whereas Q and Qv2 were like the extra durable ones). With the ZP ‘condom’, you feel more sensations, you’re more aware of what you’re doing and of your role in things; and it’s easier to forget that you’re even wearing one at all.
On the other hand, with ZP I get a lot more of what seem like ‘external’ manifestations. Happy ones and challenging ones.
I was thinking of this ‘external manifestation’ point tonight when it suddenly hit me that I’d gotten another one back in December and not even realized it.
I walk every day, and I usually take the same route, and I’ve been doing it for almost 20 months now. Well, back in early December, for the first time in 18 months, as I took my walk, I was approached by a group of four police-officers who thought I looked like something that needed investigating. Everything worked out, and I slipped through the interaction like a fish through water (on the outside anyway). Anyway, that’s not really the point. The point is it suddenly hit me that, ‘wait a minute! yet another external manifestation!’ That’s sort of how my recon works with ZP. Instead of simply feeling out of sorts, I’ll get an actual external challenge.
I’ve gotten a bunch of pleasurable external things too.
But the point is that it brings me back to @SaintSovereign’s original clues about ZP being similar to the movie Inception. Because ZP really does blur the lines between what’s happening within me and what’s going on in the world around me.

And that makes me think of another point about ZP, which may sound kind of funny. It’s almost like ZP is the ultra-sheer, ultra-thin condom (whereas Q and Qv2 were like the extra durable ones). With the ZP ‘condom’, you feel more sensations, you’re more aware of what you’re doing and of your role in things; and it’s easier to forget that you’re even wearing one at all.
Are you running any sexual based titles?

Are you running any sexual based titles?
nope. it’s only a metaphor.
I understand it.
Infact since you used that analogy i dont mind re-reading it.
In my short trial of Emperor ZP I too have experienced being a little annoyed with people not up to my standards as mentioned by @lovage.
With pros I feel more of a calm confidence in my work. Less self doubt I suppose.
On the productivity side, I got over a bit of a mental hurdle of web scraping in Python programming. Got unstuck in extracting information from sports tables. Very happy about this.