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#493

Yes, I am.

Because my natural subconscious youth baseline is much younger than my official age on paper. My body and how young it looks follows this subconscious youth baseline. This is possible because my youth baseline moves slower into the future and older age than it would happen without those youth beliefs.

I assume, that the vitality scripting has pushed these people’s subconscious youth baseline back a few years, so now they feel a little bit more vital. Which proofs my point that the subconscious mind indeed can influence how young you feel and look.

But if they, at the same time “embrace aging”, it may also lead to this youth baseline being pushed into advancing faster into older age than it would naturally occur.

Or in other words, the vitality scripting has pushed the youth baseline back a few years through the belief of “I am vital”, but at the same time the “embrace aging process” may lead to the youth baseline moving faster into the future than it would happen without this embracing.

The one thing is about moving the subconscious youth baseline and how young you see yourself (vitality scripting), while the other thing is how fast the youth baseline moves into the future (embracing aging scripting). Do you see the difference Luther?

Just because some people have experienced a vitality effect, does not mean that they will not age faster.
The vitality scripting is a good thing for sure and sets the youth baseline a few years back.
My issue is only with the “embracing of aging” and connecting “being experienced” to “age”. Because these may lead to a faster aging process in the future. This is my main concern.

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#494

I agree. The youth baseline for most people already moves faster into older age than necesary. And if they are afraid of aging, then yes, this baseline will move into older age even faster.

That is why I am advocating for all scripting to be focussed on pushing the youth baseline back in time AND slowing down the advancement of this baseline into the future as much as possible too.

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#495

-“Aging” does not stop because one refuses to “believe” in it.-

This is also a belief imo.

It is likely there because:

1-) It is likely to inherited from your ancestors to your DNA because it is what they experince and witnessed.
2-) Still affirmed from the “current” science (which is ever changing) & fed by media, movies etc. to being the reality to us.
3-) Being a present belief in the human collective mind which getting tapped by your sub-conscious mind.

Theoretically (really want to accentuate this) can be countered by;

1-) DNA getting purifed and re-coded.
2-) Re-frame those narratives and freeing your mind from any “belief”.
3-) Tapping your Conscious and Subconscious into higher vibrations than the Earthly.

Ultimate Reality is little bit slippery to grasp with the Human senses alone - Also confirmed by science -

Remember what the New Limitless description says:

Limitless Description

Imagine the mind as a vast, uncharted landscape.

Each thought is a light, illuminating a fraction of the boundless space within. But as we grow and navigate through life, society gradually draws lines around this landscape, limiting our exploration.

We’re taught to think a certain way, follow prescribed paths, and adopt beliefs that fit into conventional molds. These constraints act as a cage, restricting our natural inclination to roam freely through the infinite possibilities — and potential growth of our minds.

Who decided they had the right to do this? When someone dares to bring innovation to the table — a dream that’s just one smaller piece of a grander collective vision — the group reacts by trying to tear it apart.

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#496

If i recall reading somewhere that advances in science speed up drastically in this age of tech and shared information so in 50to 100 years its predicted there could be massive differences in understanding and treatment of aging.

In some spiritual traditions there is mentions of physical immortality, few years back if i recall big pharma buying out decodified scroll for youth elixir.
Point being wouldnt place such limitations of aging being end all be all when we dont know what’s really possible and complete potential.

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#497

I think I understand what @JCDenton is wondering about and I find it interesting to see people projecting all kinds of stuff onto what he said and complicating it considering how simple and logical his inquiry is in the first place.

I understand this is the main point that needs a little clarification, he is asking how is this objective more precisely expressed in the script, what is the angle of approach of this particular objective.

From this sentence, it seems that this is a door for someone to introduce to their sc mind and focus on the concept of aging, which I also don’t see as necessary since aging happens naturally anyway (that also can be argued but it’s a bigger conversation).

I understand this might not be as welcomed as scripting that focuses on how youthful one feels and looks, which attracts more vitality than focusing on how positive it is to have grey hair and wrinkles and embracing that.
I can see how that could ‘in theory’ affect a whole subset of other processes at the cellular level of not thriving for constant vitality but instead embracing ‘death’ and being ‘proud and confident’ about dying.

I use the word ‘death’ as an extreme to symbolize what I understand @JCDenton is referring to.

I have no intention of running this sub, I am simply trying to clarify the inquiry because I see it as a fair angle to consider and it might be useful for others to know more about.

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#498

No one is arguing that.

Maybe it’s best to differentiate a bit:

Aging at its core is just natural deterioration, with every cell division shortening telomeres until not enough is left, the DNA is corrupted and/or the cell dies.

No one is arguing against this biological fact.

There is an awful lot of stuff that can hasten or slow down this process. (e. g. diet, exercise, drugs, enviromental influences. Touched upon in this thread: Thoughts on an anti-aging sub )

@JCDenton’s point is maybe best illustrated by societal conditioning:

Every age group in the media and society is depicted/described in a certain way, older people often as inactive, frail, often ill, looking towards the end. (This is shortened, of course. Not just talking about tv or movies here though but also the age assumptions in a every book or newspaper. They are IMO rooted in the realities of 3 or 4 generations ago.) These assumptions are so omnipresent that they, naturally, influence and in part form our believe system regarding age. Even the “counterpoints” (like the cute & healthy 80 yo japanese lady still weightlifting) are often presented as the exception, freaks of nature, also validating the core assumptions of aging.

Even more problematic is the cementing of societal facts from XX years ago into societal norms of today in parts with taboos attached. (Dating, partying, enjoying life, being active, sports) Many of these soft taboos (like no sports and no dating) hasten aging. Being in a relationship, having social contacts, light cardio which often comes with it, keeps you healthy and, well in a way younger.

I suspect most important though are the build up believes and the autosuggestions that follow: If someone is conditioned by society and media (which we all are and which is a natural process) to believe that 70 means old, frail and the mental capacities gone, it is IMO a lot likelier he/she feels, acts and is in fact old and frail at 70 than someone who is not holding these believes. So the key point, if I understand @JCDenton correctly, is: The biological aging process should not be hastened by accepting the societal conditioning.

Disclaimer 1: Examples were chosen pithy to illustrate the points made. One could find examples for societal norms for men 50 yo pointing in a similar direction.

Disclaimer 2: This is no knock on Emperor Daddy, quite the contrary, actually. After rereading the copy I very much got the feeling EmpD being a sub rooted in the now, accepting where one stand right in this moment and being hot and sexy, ignoring what society would expect one to be.

Sorry for OT.

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#499

Yes. This!

Thank you.

The biological aging process should not be hastened by accepting the societal conditioning AND also not by embracing the process of aging through subconscious programming.

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#500

I think we overestimate and, at the same time, underestimate the power of our psychology in affecting our physiology.

Thinking about dying or getting sick or old doesn’t make us sick or old, or, let alone, kill us. However, it can have a negative impact on our physical well-being.

On the other hand, in the past, I had major health problems that I couldn’t EMBRACE, and because of that, I got into even more serious health problems… embracing my health condition helped me recover. It helped me tremendously.

Another thing is, on EmpD, my stamina has improved significantly, and it’s easier to connect with people who are much younger than I. It doesn’t look like “propelling” ageing to me.

:snowflake:

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#501

We are talking about the use of the most powerful subconscious programming technology that probably currently exists, i.e. ZP V2.

And that is why it is so important what the script inspires you towards to.

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#502

Well i am, because my whole post was a “what if?” counter-argument to that.

It is basically just a belief, and a “belief” is contrary to “knowing” will keep you from exploring other possibilities. So ain’t no good reason i believe that…

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#503

Then it looks like everyone needs to be reminded what the nature of Zero Point is.

I don’t feel competent enough, and I’m not authorised to elaborate on that.

@AnswerGroup

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#504

Okay. That’s a big step further than I would go.

(At least in a mind over matter & subliminal discussion. Biological aging is IMO not a belief but a fact. A lot of telomere research going on, but that’s biology and pharma.)

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#505

However, different beliefs will have a different impact on the cells though.

With positive youth-affirming programming, the subconscious mind may instruct the body to fight for a cell to stay healthy and continue to live.

With negative aging-affirming programming, the subconscious mind may decide and instruct the body to give up on cells that could be rescued and continue to live on for longer.

Multiply these effects across the whole body and over many decades, and voila, your belief system has massively influenced your levels of remaining vitality and vigor.

What the subconscious mind believes about aging and health really matters in the long-term.

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#506

I kinda do agree with @JCDenton

But I think this would be better in another thread to discuss

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#507

I agree.

Maybe ageing is just a bad term to use. Often it is damage to the body. (Stress is brutal over time.)

Agreed. We should migrate.

#508

Well that’s the current science says, if tomorrow an alien ship lands on earth and says otherwise you would suddenly would think another way.

Check out Double-Slit Experiment… Seems to be that answer got manipulated by the consciousness of the people that are doing the experiment.

Is light a wave or a particle? Which one is the “fact” ?

Edited last word: Just because science pin down something as a fact doesn’t make it ultimate reality.

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#509

I understood this to mean that, if you are ALREADY showing signs of aging, then you can more easily embrace that into your “look” and accept that part of yourself

AKA not be in denial that you have gray hair and some wrinkles, and as a result do everything you can from hair treatments to botox to dressing really youthfully to AVOID THE APPEARANCE of looking “older”

It means accepting yourself for who you are and not living in a fantasy world that doesn’t match reality.

However, if your reality is that you look and feel younger than your biological age (like @JCDenton and myself, I look 25 but I’m 30) then I can’t see how the script would tell us to “get older and act our age and develop wrinkles/gray hair faster”

If anything it would do the opposite, as mentioned by the vitality scripting. It would maintain our youth, while helping us accept any aspects of age which have ALREADY appeared, so we aren’t LYING to ourselves. However, if we are still youthful physically and in appearance, it would MAINTAIN that.

Does that make sense? Did I understand correctly @AnswerGroup

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#510

Please kindly see my reply to Luther above.

We have 2 main different factors here:

a) Where your current youth baseline is at (represented by your actual biological age).

b) How FAST this baseline moves forward (i.e. the speed at which you age). This speed is heavily influenced by the subconscious belief system too. Societal programming plays a huge role here.

My point was that the “vitality” scripting moves the “a) youth baseline” back into more youth, while “embrace aging” scripting influences b) and allows for the aging process to happen faster because it is “welcomed” and “accepted”.

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#511

He is right !! Simon says…lol :slight_smile:

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#512

I don’t know if it is of any major relevance or value to the discussion, but when we take a look at our psychology (mind), it’s always looking for ways to protect itself and further its own well-being. Actually, our survival and well-being are the main goals of our subconscious mind. Therefore, I don’t think that any kind of subliminal programming could do as serious damage to us as it’s being discussed.

Yes, I’m aware that there is harmful programming out there yet not to such a degree.

:snowflake:

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