Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn: Limit Destroyer

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#458

I would just run one until you get a good gauge on how the healing sub affects you. Two Healing subs could be a bit much. Each approach healing from a difference angle, so all are valid and encouraged to run at some point.

Limit Destroyer is more about dealing with self-limiting thoughts and beliefs, such as I am not good enough, I don’t deserve love, I am not worth much, I can never reach goals in life because…

Others are more encompassing on the mental and emotional side with blockages…

Rebirth has been updated to Phoenix Reborn with latest ZP tech and the New Subliminal Experience, so I would go with that, if you are prepared to take the plunge. It could be more intense and cause more recon than Regeneration.

It depends on what your personal aims are.

Read the product descriptions and see which resonates with you most.

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#459

Thank you brother
I’ve already listened Regeneration stacked with Ascended Mogul for 2 cycles. So you suggest try it alone or stack it with another type of sub?

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#460

Hi @Maelstrom, depending on your level of healing needed to reach your goal, 2 cycles may not be enough. Regeneration is a slow healing sub, I know people that have been on it for 6 months to a year.

Dragon Reborn: Phoenix is the most updated newest tech, I’d recommend giving that a try. Just know you need to be somewhat experienced and ready to handle radical transformation.

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#461

Personally, if I was focusing on mental and emotional healing, I would just run Phoenix. It’s very powerful and transformatively profound.

Else continue to run a 3rd or even 4th cycle of Regeneration.

Sounds like you have you some other material goals and that’s why you’ve been running Ascended Mogul along with it.

Ascension tiltes can take a while to build momentum, and get stronger and stronger over time. (At least that was my experience)

So unless your goal posts have changed, you can continue as you were.

Listen to your intuition and go with that.

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#462

Hi @IndrasNet , thank you. Do you suggest try it alone or maybe i can stack it with a little bit of Ascended Mogul?

#463

And what about stacking it with a physical healing title such as Paragon?

#464

So the new Phoenix title is recommended to try it for at least a cycle by it self, it’s that powerful so they want people to take it slowly and cautiously.

Stacking a healing and physical shifting title could cause heavy recon. I know those are both heavy totals alone.

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#465

What IndrasNet said is correct. I don’t know how much experience with subs you have.

I suggest go Phoenix alone or keep up Regeneration.

If physical healing is more of a priority use Paragon.

If the goals of AM are important to you go that. (with either of the above except Phoenix)

Follow the ZP listening guide.

Each of us is unique. For me 3-5 min loops is sweet spot for each title in the stack.

Switching subs often is not recommended. When you find ones you are flowing with and getting good results, remain with them for a few seasons to reap the most benefits.

As it was pointed out, long-term listening can really bring about solid change and also gives you a chance to integrate it.

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#466

Thank you guys, you really made It clear
I’ll go another cycle with Regeneration and AM, then i’ll start Phoenix with the new year.

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#467

This box art reminds of yugioh

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#468

This was weird

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#469

I’m planning to take this baby out for another spin with KB 2, and CWON starting next cycle. I feel like it’s the magic ingredient for my stack at the moment. I can see some potential overlap with CWON but also a lot of synergy. And I feel that it will help me make the most of KB.

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#470

How is it working out for you, the Freedom part?

#471

Are you using this and Genesis as your Cores?

#472

No, releases happened, ideas changed… you know life as usual in SC :rofl:
Now Im in st3 of Khan Black with LB and SB

#473

I started with 3 minutes of DRLD this morning, and 5 minutes of the new LB just minutes ago.

I know I’ve been stuck. Uncomfortably comfortable. For many, many years.

I’m tired of being in this spot. Amazingly so, I know recent subs have been helping me see this pattern.

What’s more remarkable to me is I don’t have and don’t need a blueprint for where I’m going. What I’ve known most often drew me back for more.

And I’ve been seeing that that’s why I’ve been circling the same fears, the same hindrances, the same lifeblocks.

I’m not totally sure where I’ll go later, but that’s a victory to me.

So, DRLD for at least one cycle. I need to find my base. And I felt what the sales page spoke of this morning: both excitement and being terrified.

Time to let it happen!

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#474

Don’t feel bad. I started my first cycle of Love Bomb yesterday. Thirty second loops. Tired of feeling bad about myself which always leads to self sabotage at some point. I put up with so much that someone who loves themselves and has self respect would never tolerate.

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Learn what self love is
#475

Yeah. I relate. It’s hard to accept that I do what I do to myself too. Very hard.

I tend to be hard on myself when I admit this to others, and after I wrote that post above, I turned on myself. I found myself kicking my tail this afternoon. Found a movie about kindness and forgiveness. Made me tear up a bit. It softened me.

Just like the DRLD copy says, we lay the bricks. We orchestrate our lives…I orchestrate my life…to do it again and again and again…while wanting something good. Something kind. Something caring.

Because being kind to myself is often not my first move.

LB and DRLD are right on time today.

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#476

Yesterday I did 5 minutes of DRLD in the morning. It came in slowly, but exactly like DR itself, it hung on, keeping me focused on the goal.

A buddy asked how my day was via email, and I shared I was off and had been all day. Like I couldn’t “not pay attention” to harmful thinking I circled around.

My buddy, who’s never done healing subs, was concerned. This morning I replied to him, and I’m pasting it here.

Beginning of reply:

"This is normal recon for a healing title attached to the name Dragon Reborn. Just like DR, it had me focusing on things I hold on to which hold me back.

And that was ok. I chose this title because I keep going in circles, unable to see why.

One major holdup did show itself. I became aware that I’ve depended on others…to make my decisions for me. Yes, I do this. I couldn’t see it, and that’s difficult for me. I’ve lived in that childhood mentality my entire life.

I will admit this. A few times yesterday I had this belief that I couldn’t make it alone.

That’s the sub working because that very belief was why I sought others out. The sub is working. It’s very active.

And I thank God it’s a DR title. Because all the support scripting keeps my head above water. Just like DR itself. That’s why the original DR is so popular. You’re not mired in defeatist thinking 24/7.

And DRLD’s focus is eradicating “I can’t” and other limiting beliefs. That’s why I chose it."

End of reply

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#477

I am currently listening to DRLD as well as Phoenix… Much of what you said resonates with me, Here’s to constant healing, growth, and elevation.

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