Any updates on this combo? I’m planning to do it next cycle. CWON, Heartsong, and KB 3.
This was July 22. I’m not running this anymore and I think I never did tbh 
From the horse’s mouth
An extract from the Tao Te ching around Leadership
True leaders
are hardly known to their followers.
Next after them are the leaders
the people know and admire;
after them, those they fear;
after them, those they despise.
To give no trust
is to get no trust.
When the work’s done right,
with no fuss or boasting,
ordinary people say,
Oh, we did it.
commentary about this paragraph
The virtuous lords of ancient times initiated no actions and left no traces. Hence, the people knew they were there and that was all. When their virtue diminished, they ruled with kindness and justice, and the people loved and praised them. When their kindness and justice no longer controlled people’s hearts, they governed with laws and punishments, and the people feared them. When their laws and punishments no longer controlled people’s minds, they acted with force and deceit, and the people despised them.
I’m hyped for this tile’s upgrade!!
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I’m a fan of the Tao Te Ching. This is gonna be good!
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Quick question
Does CWON help to reconnect the user with their real self? In the same way as the copy suggested the user will connect the self to nature?
I’m debating whether to include this in a new NE custom with possibly Divine Self Image/I AM/I am Atman or something that will bring out my real self.
Maybe CFW is more appropriate that CWON?
I’ve been on CFW for 5 cycles. Moving to CWON again.
I think CWON is the better choice if that is a person’s goal. Here’s the relevant objective from CWON:
Remove all mental limitations preventing you from expressing your true, natural self to the world.
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Haven’t ran this since 2023
My peak year physically
And decided to run a loop for fun last week
And immediately am dialed all the way in on my nutrition and lifts
I don’t know why but this title always been the best for me physically
@SaintSovereign when updated can you keep whatever is in this original please and thank you
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That’s what I was hoping too for the Chosen line. That it’d just stay the same. They’re great as is. Just with the updated scripting and NSE and anti-recon etc.
I think this one is getting the overhaul as well though. It’s been said that it’s going to be like a leadership title based on the Tao. In fact it was mentioned quite some time ago that I’d have expected it to be out already. Like the Survival Instinct update.
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Super underrated honestly.
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Completely agree. This is one of the most if not the most underrated sub on this site.
I think this sub´s aura alone is the most beautiful aura subclub has created, something about it touches people´s heart in ways no other sub does.
Internally it makes me feel peaceful, kind and full of love, more so than purely love focused subs such as lbfh.
My only reason for not running it all the time is that something about it makes me very sad, and I am pretty sure it is recon because modern city life is so disconnected from the way this sub wants you to live.
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Definitely –
We’ve received a number of requests on this. The nature scripting and the love of nature will be enhanced.
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Yes, the leadership scripting will be based on the exoteric words of Lao Tzu. The Chosen line, has always focused on radiant leadership in various expressions.
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@Presence for me I stopped running it cause I had no drive for my work goals
But again it was the only sub I ran at the time so maybe with something else stacked alongside it could’ve fixed that issue.
But during spring/summer, if you’re into hiking, breathwork, beach days etc
This sub is second to none
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Will definitely be getting a HeO + GLM + CWON custom
(replacing my current HeO + GLM + Earth custom)
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I just read that entire book while on GLM. It’s an excellent text on balanced leadership. What the world needs. Love CWON.
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In my opinion, The Way of Nature would fit better into the Revelation line. I somehow understand that Chosen is focused on leadership and acted as some kind of counterpart to Emperor. And I loved to use Chosen together with Stark.
With Chosen:tWoN I always tried to have it as a kind of foundational titel. So here’s why I think it would better act as a revelation title. Nature can serve as a source of inspiration for almost anything: for arts, creativity, health, wellbeing, emotional, mental and physical healing, spirituality, wealth, sports, even sexuality and interpersonal relationships. Just as RoM and RoS serve to explore inner landscapes and to let wisdom of any kind unfold, Revelation of Nature would serve to explore outer landscapes and draw wisdom, inspiration and insights form there. It would be a very versatile title that only requires one to go out in nature or at least to imagine to be in a natural environment and then can be consciously guided and stacked with almost anything.
That’s how I tried to use C:tWoN and how I would love to use an updated title. Nature, just as the mind and the Spirit, is a inherent part of human kind and this title would serve as a way to reveal the union between man and nature.
Just my 2 cents but being honest, I would love to see something like that.
Edit: Want to add just a thought. Why not put Chosen into the Emperor line, make it Emperor: Chosen. Or maybe even Hero: Chosen.
Chosen:tWoN can become Revelation of Nature.
And Chosen from Within could be discontinued since we have DR:Regen and the updated Sanguines could maybe cover the rest.
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Hopefully you can pull this nature scripting into a module or Essence module as well. My spirituality is based on nature so this would absolutely go into a future spiritual custom.
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Many cultures had a spirituality rooted in living in harmony with nature. So I almost wonder if the old Chosen Way of Nature could be revamped into a future Sage Immortal update. I can see how they kind of go hand in hand already. Chosen is about gaining insight from nature and would seem to blend right in with Sage.
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