Main Disc. Thread - CHOSEN [Now Available!]

Indeed… That’s why I’d rather eat them :lobster: :shrimp: :squid:

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What do you think the benefits of running chosen along primal seduction or a seduction subliminal would be? Would it help in the process of seduction?

In the process of seduction you must lead, so. What do you think? Will chosen decrease the power of a seduction subliminal?

@SaintSovereign

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I am really enjoying chosen.

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Reflecting on this question, just led me to a (possible) insight that I hadn’t quite grasped.

The jewel of CHOSEN is, I believe, empathic imagination.

Empathy is not sympathy. It’s not necessarily about feeling warmly to someone or wanting to help them.

Empathy is the capacity to accurately imagine and feel what someone else is experiencing in this moment. It’s the foundation, par excellence, of high-quality interconnectedness. On the level of human beings, it’s the difference between being an isolated computer, and being a networkable computer.

Empathy is about information. What you choose to do with that information is still up to you.

Imagine that you were granted, magickally, the capacity to feel and experience exactly what others were feeling and experiencing. Imagine that all of us were granted this capacity. Now, imagine, further, that this capacity was involuntary. In other words, not only can we experience what others experience, but we must.

How might this change things?

How quick would you be to punch someone in the face if you yourself would also feel the pain of the punch?

And so on.

This is a thought-experiment that I’ve played for years, and I think it’s a decent science-fiction premise.

But here’s the thing:

you might decide that it was worth it anyway.

This guy’s got such a Backpfeifengesicht face, that it’ll be worth the pain.

Alright, so long story short.

If you have to be conscious of what you’re actually doing, what are you still willing to do?

That, for me, is an answer to that question.

This has been another long-ass post from @Malkuth

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Damn I 100% agree, very Hegelian way of looking at it.

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NotSureLeo

:face_with_monocle:

So …

Will a Powerful, Positive, Irresistible Alpha Leadership Mindset subliminal decrease my ability to Lead a woman?

:thinking:

Only if your style is about Neg-atively leading, I guess.

:joy:

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It’s a mystery as to what you mean here :joy:

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TommyLookingOver

Go read the salespages again.

:grin:

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You nailed it. This has been my experience with Chosen when it comes to dealing with people, and it’s instant. I just know as soon as I see the person, and I don’t even have to think of what to say in most cases to relate to them and to make them feel that connection. While reading body language still applies in most cases, this empathy goes beyond reading the body language because I can see what someone really wants or needs and would be open to, even when their body language says otherwise.

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You have to be careful here because to me it sounds like you’re trying to find a way out of running Chosen (oh sneaky recon!). If you truly don’t hold any grudges anymore, then it wouldn’t be an issue for you to keep running it, no? It’s a contradiction to say, “These people should never be forgiven to the point where I’ll stop running the sub altogether” and “I don’t really hold any grudges”.

This is a common pattern I see in a friend of mine. He’ll say, “Nah I don’t care about her anymore” and “She’s dead to me” but I can see from the way he talks and acts that it’s done an impression on him. Don’t let the unconscious be the hidden driver of your life.

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Oh no no
At first it was one of the reasons, yes, but another reason (the main one) was that deep down, there was some inner conflict between the archetype of WZP and Chosen.

As one of the most attractive traits of mine is my positive narcissistic behavior (good arrogance), and my girlfriend also told me that she noticed how I was more selfless and generous than before, and noticed that some of the behavior I had were not really me, in a way.

Like if I were to describe my ideal archetype (which I know I am, deep down), it’s basically a mix of Lucifer + Tyler Durden + Tony Stark, there’s that egoistic, yet attractive edge that those characters have, which I have as well, and it felt like Chosen was changing it for the better (for others, not for me).

That’s why I’m glad I took the chance with Emperor, and stopped Chosen, because the positive leadership vibes feels like it’s back, but I don’t feel the need to keep myself humble anymore, like I did on Chosen :rofl:.

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With the way you’re describing it I feel like there’s some sort of placebo effect going on in your case, with the way it feels like you’re explicitly trying to live in the way of the ‘Chosen’ archetype. You’re forcing it a little too much in my opinion.

Don’t forget that ZP is supposed to push reality through you unlike Q, so the real impact of ‘Chosen’ on you would be in a way that would still balance your self-described “good arrogance” and other character traits with the ‘Chosen’ man. Smells like recon but hey, you do you.

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Meh.
Emperor still feels better to me, for me.

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I’m curious if anyone has run Chosen, Emperor ZP , and Sage Immortal ZP in a stack.
Sage Immortal fascinates me because I feel like I don’t know a lot of things that people my age probably do , should , or whatever.
My healing journey has done a lot towards this but it also made me realize I have a long way to go and that it never ends.

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Please bro, give yourself some credit!!! You do know a lot of things that other people your age don’t know. No one knows everything! If you go down that path, you won’t stop looking to personal inadequacies and trust me you’ll find them. If you feel you need to improve a specific aspect of your life, identify that aspect precisely, then create a plan to work on it. Other than that, you’re just as good and valid than any other person.

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It’s not about inadequacies as much as just knowing how to handle adult situations. That’s all. I’m not getting down on myself I promise

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Chosen is categorized as a status sub and rightfully so. But why does it also appear among the wealth subs?

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That seems insightful to me.

Empathy and Humility. Two probable aspects to CHOSEN.

Time may come when the Chosen vibes feel right and feel timely for you. You can play it then. Until then, nothing wrong with focusing on other ways first.

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From earlier in this thread.

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It seems to be inderect wealth. The connections are there, but then you have to do the work to interact with the people to get the wealth.

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