Does this increase testosterone?
Would make a good custom with Legacy of the Spartan if the Core is released.
6 Likes
Can’t see this thread in the Product Discussion section.
Something tells me the original name was “Heavenly Eggplant” with the most masculine acronym – HE.
And BDLM penetrated the salescopy in the last moment.
7 Likes
Is it permanent?
1 Like
I wish this topic will be different.
I like facts! Can we have a measure of this effect?
Historically, few members had been kind to share real “easy measurable information”. It cannot be more easy to do it. Still, we do not know. Subjective observation such as “it looks bigger” or “my partner was surprised” are not good for science ( please do not suggest me to submit a ticket).
I really want a non-deflective answer from the creators. It will help to build credibility about real physical change and not only subjectivity.
Some of you will consider an attack to SC. Nothing further that reality but an opportunity to get data from tester before the product was launched is important.
Please do not skip this question.
Thanks!
PS. Suggesting that there is a 30 days no question refund policy is very much deflecting the question.
1 Like
Yeah boy, when she goes like:
1 Like
Pp bigger in 30 days or ur money back
The metric used will be baseline = pp smol, after 30 days = pp big
I’m not sure of how much more science you really need.
3 Likes
Just want to add that this is the least sexy way I’ve ever been propositioned for a dick pic, but fuck it better than nothing. Chalking this up as a result from KBBC.
7 Likes
I hope ppl won’t be posting a picture here like in the Legacy of the Spartan thread 
2 Likes
I agree. 100%
First and foremost, while I can appreciate the question, please refrain from attempting to predict our counterarguments and then “poison the well.” It is by your standards that mentioning the 30-day refund policy is a “deflection,” not our standards, so I’d appreciate it if you (or anyone) could refrain from attempting to police my language.
The whole purpose of the 30-day refund policy is to allow people to test the program and see if it will work for them, then we collect that data to improve the programs. We have done this successfully for years, and I really don’t see any benefit in changing the way we do this. We don’t collect “cold data” which is just numbers that can be modified and lied about, we present everyone with an active community of individuals reporting experiences, which is far more useful in this field than anything else.
Before anyone tries to lecture me on scientific data versus what’s being called “subjective,” remember that I worked with data for over 20 years and I have seen with my own eyes how easy it is to present bullshit as “fact” simply because someone claimed it was “scientific data.” For this company, customer experience will always out shine anything else.
Mentioning the fact that we are actively collecting data using that forum – the same system we’ve relied on for years now to create great programs – is not a “deflection.” It is simply fact.
A few things:
-
The forum responses ARE the data. And it’s just as useful and valid as any other data collection process. It has worked very well, based off the results of recent programs like Genesis, in which we directly incorporated all of the recent feedback that we’ve received.
-
What exactly do you expect us to do outside of rely on forum feedback? Go to each user’s house and ask to see their penis and measure it? If you’re asking what my personal results are, then that is simply n=1 and has no alleged “scientific value” anyway. Therefore, the most reliable way to measure the success of the program, is again, by asking the people to report their results.
-
The script is based off the same method as Legacy of the Spartan, which we already know is capable of generating astounding results based off the reports of the individuals. Please refrain from dismissing their results simply because it isn’t presented in a manner that you like. The individuals who go to the gym everyday knows their limits. If they are reporting a result, to dismiss it as “subjectivity” goes against what we do here at Subliminal Club. Likewise, an individual lives with his penis his entire life. He knows if it’s getting bigger or not, he doesn’t have to provide spreadsheets of data for that. If there’s one thing that rubs me the wrong way, it’s when someone reports a result, then someone else runs in and screams “nah uh, you didn’t measure it the way I would so it must be invalid.”
-
We already know that one can use manual techniques, as well as devices such as the Bathmate to increase both the length and the girth of a penis. There are many people on this forum who will attest to that, as well as entire communities dedicated to those techniques.
-
The so-called giant leap of logic needed to suggest that a subliminal program could indeed increase penis size, is not a leap of logic at all. If subliminal audio can help induce muscle growth – the same way lifting weights does – then it most certainly can assist in growth of the penis, just as you can manually.
So, to answer your question and everyone else’s – if you don’t want to buy the program, feel free not to do so. Wait for the results, and then give it a try (or not) then.
26 Likes
I mean get why you’d want something physical in results listed. But honestly you just run it, see the results internal and external change yourself. Be it quick or slow, you get there. You state for example this sub so and so got x amount of increase in length or girth in so so amount of time. Then person B in same amount of time under different limiting beliefs or starting points will be like why didn’t my thing grow in the same way and speed.
Then further enhance their limitations on them not being able to increase physically in whichever way they wish to. Most of here have experienced these limitations or breakthroughs we encounter when running subliminals. Most of our gains are in realizing that we do not have limitations but the ones we or others place on us.
Short story to this is that each of us are different and have different starting points and having this kind of data would be counter productive. Like I don’t need to know the data behind why my phone works and or my vehicle, it just does.
2 Likes
I imagine that this one would be a great sub for someone starting a career in the adult industry 
3 Likes
Social experiment: When IT gets bigger…new problems lol 
2 Likes
Yes, this is what I’m trying to point out. We’d essentially have to host a multi-year clinical trial in order to obtain such data and even then it’d be completely invalid because we’re dealing with a situation where the main determinant of results is the individual’s development level of personal consciousness, which we have no objective way of measuring in the first place.
5 Likes
I mean, it’s all good, but… you really corrected the “lore” of a PP subliminal. I’m just saying.
5 Likes
I understand where you’re coming from.
The way I look at it is, there are hundreds of reports of people experiencing bigger penises all throughout the forum. Just take a look at Diamond reports. People even report an increase in penis size on subs like Paragon and WANTED.
If you want measurements, you even have that from some members:
This is all with older tech and older products… which also focused on more than one thing.
BDLM is a new product that focuses purely on size, so it’s probably even more powerful.
Massive amounts of “subjective” (assuming your definition) data + measurement data + newer tech + Subliminal Club doesn’t take steps back + 30 day money back guarantee.
I would be optimistic in the results and try it out. This is just the way how I see it.
If you’re connecting all the dots, I think you’d naturally be quite optimistic? I mean, there is nothing to suggest that it doesn’t work and everything to suggest that it does.
I understand that you tend to be pessimistic about subs in general, as you previously described that you don’t get results like everyone else. You yourself classify as a small minority in comparison to the vast majority of users. I understand that’s tough to deal with.
I would recommend trying it out for a month or 2 while journaling and taking action. You might be pleasantly surprised.
6 Likes
I’m saying that I couldn’t get into the joke because the “lore” killed the humor for me. Think about getting hyped up over the course of two days for a drop and then reading a poorly written joke in English on the product page that’s introducing it… it was a, dare I say it, boner killer for me.
Sorry 
I wanted to love the joke like everyone else
1 Like