@SaintSovereign is there anything on prostate health in this one?
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Kind of agree with @Salchichon, the same way we have clear measurable criteria to go from Q to ZPv2, the same way we should be able to share, at some point later maybe not now, measurable improvement for dick size. And asking on average how much the eggplant will increase, why is it unreasonable? Not saying that should prevent someone to use it, but I think it is not far fetch to ask. Friday did report but I dont think many people did it.
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Will there be a women version dropping of this? BPLM, the augmentation of the avocado?
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Revelation of Penis
This is incredible.
Can this be stacked with LOTS?
Also does this help with penis/reproductive health and image aside from size?
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Guys, I do not know the intricacies of how these different methods of delivery of subliminal messages work.
However, if you say you tested, it must be some kind of clear improvement that can be attributable to use a subliminal that attempt to improve whatever idea/attitude, etc(yes, difficult to assess, it is intrinsically subjective but no all).
Here, there is a product that attempt to change length and girth of a penis. So, how difficult is this??? Everyone is hidden behind a nickname. I don’t know who the creators are.
It is really that difficult to say something like this “We expose 10 males with ages ranging between 20 and 40 yo, with no other methods for penis enlargement, to x pattern of listening over a period of x weeks. 8/10 had show an average of increase in length of xx cm and girth of xx cm”
I do not see my question as “heretic”. But discrediting something easily assessable makes that all this is simply sad. However, everyone is free to think whatever they want.
Sad but true! At least to me.
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Actually someone else said it first:
And the one who said it first after the announcement was a woman!
Deep thoughts: Does this program have an aura? If so, it is called aura of penis?
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The aura must be Big Dick Energy.
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I’ve already answered this sufficiently. Wait for people to post their results. Every time we try something new, someone comes along with their “skepticism,” demands something, refuses to listen to what we’re saying (which you’re doing, because you’re not actually responding to what I’m saying, just repeating the demand) and ends up getting proven wrong. Then, of course, they vanish into the ether, never again to admit that they were wrong.
We don’t what the title is or isn’t capable of yet, only that it is capable of achieving the target goal in some form. We know this because it shares the exact same scripting base as Legacy of the Spartan. If something can be enhanced manually, like lifting weights or doing PP exercises, it can be done subliminally.
Point blank. We know this because we’ve done this for years now, and you don’t get to negate that though a poor usage of claiming that we’re using argumentum ad verecundiam (appeal to authority) to make our case. The fact that the same process to use LotS was used to make this was an inference, not a “deflection.” And when you’re talking about a product whose main method of action is modifying the consciousness, you are going to have to work using intuition and inference mixed with data insights.
If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Wait for results. If you want to continue to argue it, move it to another thread.
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essentially meaning, hey guys lets not judge, lets measure our pp’s first! haha
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Yes, I don’t know why suddenly the process we’ve used for years to refine and enhance our products is suddenly an issue. We use a logical process when building products. We built a purely physical shifting product first (Legacy of the Spartan) to see if our approach to physical shifting works. It does. We realized that anything that can be changed by manual effort (like going to the gym, or PE exercises) can also be accelerated and enhanced through subliminal use. The customers report back, we enhance the products over time and they become stronger and stronger. It really isn’t a hard concept to understand.
People are just handwaving away other people’s results as “subjective” without any real rationale of which are being handwaved away. In my opinion, that’s the more irrational process, because you’re just choosing which results to accept and which ones to reject based off internal emotion, not an actual set of criteria designed to select the BEST results. Then, they project their own internal BS on us by claiming we’re the ones doing it, rofl.
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The next person to “flag” one of my posts gets a 1-day ban. You are in the house that @Fire and @SaintSovereign built. You don’t flag us.
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It seems very rational!
C’mon man!
I am your client for more than 4 years.
This is being ridiculous.
I own 80% of your titles. Some of them were very good. But do not act in a paternalistic way and degrading your client questions as simply BS.
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Oh wait!!! Now people are coming too someone’s house and flagging the owner of the house? Never thought I would hear that one!
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Yes, which is why I’m so confused that you suddenly don’t understand our process. It works, it has worked and continues to work. It’s a very data driven process behind the scenes that doesn’t require us to “test” every single title. We’ve already explained the rationale three times now. We waited all this time to make a dedicated PP sub because we needed our physical shifting technology to work well. We finally hit the mark with Legacy of the Spartan. Now, we are confident that people will see good results on BDLM.
For your argument to stand the way you want, you have to dismiss the results on the LotS thread as “subjective,” which is what really frustrates me. If you want to request that the individuals who run BDLM report their results with steady, progressive measurements while you wait to buy the title, please feel free to do so. But to tell people that their results are just “subjective” and diminish it to “I felt like my muscles are bigger” is insulting and dismissive to them. We’ve never really allowed that here, as customer feedback and the customer experience is literally the rock that we’ve built this company on.
Then to suggest that us reminding everyone that the purpose of the 30-day refund policy is a “deflection” was again, an insult to us as the entire process at Subliminal Club is based on customer feedback, not the closed tests. The closed tests we run are generally to establish a solid safety profile and see what to expect from the subliminal from a general standpoint. If a title isn’t performing well, you never see us say “b-b-b-but the initial testers did great!” Instead, we just try to improve the damn product so more people can enjoy it.
That is the process here. It will remain the process here. I am confident that the product would work, that’s why we had so much fun making and branding it. So, rather than trying to derail that process, simply ask if we could come up with a public posting protocol where individuals are encourage to post their numbers on a regular interval so you can decide whether or not to buy the product. I would’ve jumped on that idea. Instead, you rolled in accusing us of “deflections” and all kinds of stuff while the HypeDaddySovereign was still riding on internal hype.
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What exactly are you talking about? I’ve given you very long and detailed responses. I’m just being direct as I always am. Bro, I think I sense a bit of recon going on here.
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@Salchichon this is the answer you’re looking for - they didn’t do any testing prior to release, so they have no “hard” numbers to report (get it?). If you want to know the data behind the sub, wait for user reports to start popping up on the forum.
The end
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This is also a solid point, as proven by the history of free updates and tweaks/patches/hotfixes to recently released subs
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I love the spirit of this release. Maybe I’ll try it out for fun some time.
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We did do testing, I just don’t want to put those numbers out there and then set expectations for the entire community. I also view the closed tests differently, not as “proof” that the title will work, but to set an internal goal to hit for everyone.
I mean, it’s a PP growing sub. This is the type of title that subliminal producers in the past didn’t want to work on because they thought it would diminish the credibility of the subliminal community. So, we decided to take on the task ourselves. Not only did we release the title, we did it in the most hilarious, irreverent way that we could think of.
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I want the best for everyone. I had not declared enemies of any kind. Since Nov 18th, 2018, I joined SC.
The journey was sometimes more pleasant other less. However, I have an intrinsic desire to improve every day. So, if this is experimental in nature. I just asked about the method of testing and if data can be shared( imagine if this method is really works, it can change everything in medicine and other products offered for the same purpose).
I don’t track LotS, I don’t know what people are posting there. I had not say on that.
I have absolutely nothing against @SaintSovereign or @Fire. Indeed, many times, I expressed my good wishes and thanks for amazing products such as Libertine Ultima v1 or Emperor V2 and 3. I truly want to get the most of this experiment.
So, why we just don’t say: PEACE!
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