Main Disc. Thread - BDLM ZP (Updated Nov 2023)! Q Core Now Available!

It seems very rational!
C’mon man!
I am your client for more than 4 years.
This is being ridiculous.
I own 80% of your titles. Some of them were very good. But do not act in a paternalistic way and degrading your client questions as simply BS.

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Oh wait!!! Now people are coming too someone’s house and flagging the owner of the house? Never thought I would hear that one!

LOL

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Yes, which is why I’m so confused that you suddenly don’t understand our process. It works, it has worked and continues to work. It’s a very data driven process behind the scenes that doesn’t require us to “test” every single title. We’ve already explained the rationale three times now. We waited all this time to make a dedicated PP sub because we needed our physical shifting technology to work well. We finally hit the mark with Legacy of the Spartan. Now, we are confident that people will see good results on BDLM.

For your argument to stand the way you want, you have to dismiss the results on the LotS thread as “subjective,” which is what really frustrates me. If you want to request that the individuals who run BDLM report their results with steady, progressive measurements while you wait to buy the title, please feel free to do so. But to tell people that their results are just “subjective” and diminish it to “I felt like my muscles are bigger” is insulting and dismissive to them. We’ve never really allowed that here, as customer feedback and the customer experience is literally the rock that we’ve built this company on.

Then to suggest that us reminding everyone that the purpose of the 30-day refund policy is a “deflection” was again, an insult to us as the entire process at Subliminal Club is based on customer feedback, not the closed tests. The closed tests we run are generally to establish a solid safety profile and see what to expect from the subliminal from a general standpoint. If a title isn’t performing well, you never see us say “b-b-b-but the initial testers did great!” Instead, we just try to improve the damn product so more people can enjoy it.

That is the process here. It will remain the process here. I am confident that the product would work, that’s why we had so much fun making and branding it. So, rather than trying to derail that process, simply ask if we could come up with a public posting protocol where individuals are encourage to post their numbers on a regular interval so you can decide whether or not to buy the product. I would’ve jumped on that idea. Instead, you rolled in accusing us of “deflections” and all kinds of stuff while the HypeDaddySovereign was still riding on internal hype.

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What exactly are you talking about? I’ve given you very long and detailed responses. I’m just being direct as I always am. Bro, I think I sense a bit of recon going on here.

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@Salchichon this is the answer you’re looking for - they didn’t do any testing prior to release, so they have no “hard” numbers to report (get it?). If you want to know the data behind the sub, wait for user reports to start popping up on the forum.

The end

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This is also a solid point, as proven by the history of free updates and tweaks/patches/hotfixes to recently released subs

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I love the spirit of this release. Maybe I’ll try it out for fun some time.

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We did do testing, I just don’t want to put those numbers out there and then set expectations for the entire community. I also view the closed tests differently, not as “proof” that the title will work, but to set an internal goal to hit for everyone.

I mean, it’s a PP growing sub. This is the type of title that subliminal producers in the past didn’t want to work on because they thought it would diminish the credibility of the subliminal community. So, we decided to take on the task ourselves. Not only did we release the title, we did it in the most hilarious, irreverent way that we could think of.

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I want the best for everyone. I had not declared enemies of any kind. Since Nov 18th, 2018, I joined SC.

The journey was sometimes more pleasant other less. However, I have an intrinsic desire to improve every day. So, if this is experimental in nature. I just asked about the method of testing and if data can be shared( imagine if this method is really works, it can change everything in medicine and other products offered for the same purpose).

I don’t track LotS, I don’t know what people are posting there. I had not say on that.

I have absolutely nothing against @SaintSovereign or @Fire. Indeed, many times, I expressed my good wishes and thanks for amazing products such as Libertine Ultima v1 or Emperor V2 and 3. I truly want to get the most of this experiment.

So, why we just don’t say: PEACE!

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Yeah, I’m down with that, lol. I didn’t know we were at war, though. Just a discussion.

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It sure can.

Unfortunately, it does not. The only way we could get physical shifting to work the way we wanted is if the entire script was dedicated to it. You can get results from Wanted, but it’s much much slower and gradual.

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Would the growth be permanent? Does one need to continue listening for the growth to be sustained?

P.E exercises definately work and if it’s like LoS, mixing P.E exercises with this title could be massive.

Just need to know if I need to continue listening to it once someone has their desired size

So, free title them?

There is a slight unique aura that I don’t want to mention yet, because I wanted to see if people reported it first. Of course, once I reveal the aura afterward, some people will say that we’re just claiming it’s there, but I’d rather go that route and know that the aura works than to say it now and run the risk of people THINKING they see it.

But eh, the STKS era is about embracing change and revolution, mixing it up and doing things different to change the routine in an alchemical way, soooo…

There’s a “BJ” aura in it. If upon running BDLM, your consensual sexual partners or POTENTIAL consensual sexual partners (because yes, the free will scripting is in that aura) starts offering more BJs (and HJs too) and seems very ready and willing to do so, they got BDLM’d.

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So is it only SIZE scripting, and not “aesthetic” scripting?

Like BIG PP, but not necessarily, good looking attractive scrumptious PP.

Please. :wink:

That’s not how SubClub rolls. It’s definitely both. Big PP with the ideal visual aesthetics based on what you see was “ideal.”

rofl, I might expand the copy later today to discuss this.

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Now I KNOW this is NOT something ai suggested… :grin:

Okay for those of you who wanted a specific title for that specific area, I’m happy for you all! :champagne:

And for those of you who are interested in this ongoing epic:

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lol, we do this a lot with our titles. We’ll place a feature in without telling anyone and wait for people to start reporting it. Once they do, we know the title works well. For BDLM, pay attention to sexual partner’s responses when they see your penis. Also, if your sexual partner reports feeling “full” during a penetrative act, even though you may not have noticed huge growth yet.

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Then there’s the “post coital penetration sensation”… that feeling that transcends time and space… when that person sends you a text with a variation of:

“Even though we had sex two days ago, I can still feel you inside me.”

That is always a good text to get! :grin:

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bigger D didn’t get me stirred up …but this is another story….awesome…which means I am walking around and emitting an aura asking those I encounter “ are you willing to suck my D ” it is so damn cool……finally ,I feel like my high school gigolo dream is coming true….

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