Liminality custom Qv2

And from a certain perspective, they’re much simpler than we assume.

We think that there’s some complex puzzle to be solved, or some elusive insight to be apprehended.

The reality is more similar to learning the habit of turning one’s head to look to the left or right.

What needs to be worked with is more a habit of attention and thought than some incredibly complicated analysis. Sometimes it’s as simple as “I avoid [X] because I expect [X] to be painful and overwhelming.”

But, precisely because that area is so neglected, there may be some very important resources and opportunities that are mixed up with [X] and that could be accessed very easily if I could just find a way to look over there.

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I have to laugh because this is so spot on. I am incredibly guilty of complex analysis. I think it comes from this mistaken assumption that I can bypass the emotional baggage by deconstructing everything. Nope. The irony for me is despite always being highly emotional and sensitive I actually don’t have a good relationship with my emotions. And maybe I always weaved those complex spiderweb theories as a way to further avoid that emotional pain. Like “look how complex all of this is. Surely I can’t just address the underlying emotions that easily?” But I can and I should. Not easy in the slightest and my mind is damn good at throwing me off that direct path to the emotions.

Detours left and right in my brain. It’s like having the goal right down the street but someone set up a blockade and routed you through a mess of back roads and beaten paths that increase the amount of time it takes to get there.

Same here.

It’s a slippery fish.

At least knowing it’s a slippery fish gives us a better chance of eventually grabbing hold of the thing.

In the past few years, I’ve come to the feeling that at the core of many, many difficulties can be found some relatively straightforward dynamics related to 1) Pain and/or 2) Attachment. (I don’t mean the Buddhist version of attachment i.e., tanha. I mean the Attachment Theory version of attachment, i.e., the fact that we’re social animals who develop and grow within the matrix of social connection and relationships.)

Anyway, those dynamics may be straightforward, but that doesn’t stop them from defeating me time and time again. They’re straightforward in the way that a tsunami or the Sun or an 8000 pound rock are straightforward.

Anyway, man, thanks for the understanding. Feels less alone.

and then this:

There is a strength in this laughter. Maybe it’s grim, gallows-laughter at times. But laughter it still is, all the same.

And I think it helps sometimes.

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Anytime, always happy to swap insights and metaphors. It definitely helps me as well, knowing that this mind of mine isn’t thinking in an entirely off the wall fashion.

Absolutely. There’s definitely a mixture of dark comedy in there but at the same time I feel like I’m growing enough lately that I understand these aren’t permanent states of mind. But I understand that on a more intuitive emotional level which is stronger than just telling myself something like that to feel better.

Really feeling lately that I wear a mask to fit in. But not like an insecurity thing. This is more like needing to appear a certain way to be a functioning member of the workforce. I’m just feeling a little too messed up to hold down a job right now. Despite working in IT I do a lot of interaction with people and I can’t stand it anymore.

As defeatist as that sounds, that masking is my own doing. And is most likely rooted in shame for having to deal with these issues. The fact that I’m feeling the need to stop doing that masking is important because it’s a shift of priority. Understanding I’m important, I’m the most important thing, not my performance at this job or keeping up some social demeanor.

Now how to take that pressure off myself without coming across like a complete misfit is the issue at hand.

New custom has arrived. I swear this is the last one until I get my shit sorted. Or if I have to upgrade to a more powerful build. But I’ll be sticking with the modules for some time. Gonna just keep going here vs a new journal.

Apparently being a self actualized confident guy who is also highly skilled with music and makes a bunch of money was too much of a leap for me. So back to basics I go. As ambitious as I’ve always been in my own head for what I would like my life to represent, I feel that image isn’t a good path until I’ve released the limiting beliefs attached to it. Making goals but not having a strong foundation to support them is a huge issue.

Hoping a run of this makes my life easier for me.

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Had a chill weekend with some friends. We rented a place and hungout. After it was all over I got insanely depressed. I told them all I was moving soon and it’s sad because in the past I was never present enough to truly enjoy their company. Now that I’ve grown and learned to appreciate these moments more I see how lucky I am to have friends like them. But it came so late in my life.

I still struggle a lot with reaching out to people. I get caught up in all my own mental bs and work and then I’m exhausted. I just hate how normalized that’s become in my life. Relationships suffer just because I’m hard to reach. I don’t intentionally do it, it just kind of happens and I hate it.

I have to do what’s best for me. But moving away from my friends is gonna be tough. Granted I’ll only be 6 hours away, but sometimes that much travel can be hard to get around for both sides. I’m going to do my best. I’m really just looking for a fresh start where I can prioritize what’s really important to me. My current job has strained my relationships a bit and I don’t want to be in the position of losing friends because another part of my life decided to steamroll those relationships.

I’m just really sick of having a part of my life fuck up everything else for me. When the stress of the job leaks into my life and ruins other thing. I’ve lived with that for about two years now thinking I had to handle it better. The reality is it’s no good for me.

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WOW! I think you’re doing some growing. How do you think your custom is helping?

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Thanks! So I actually haven’t started it yet interestingly enough. But there was definitely something these past few days that got worked on. To be honest I’m not even sure it was bloom from my previous custom. It felt more in line with the goals of this new custom. So call me crazy but I think I was effected before even listening.

It’s a good idea to be skeptical of this too. Not the sadness of anticipating missing friends who you love, but the predictions of how bad it’s going to be.

If you watch it closely, you’ll see that your mind is smuggling in anxieties and negative predictions together with legitimate concerns. Like someone sneaking bootlegged items past TSA or customs. Don’t let it get away with that.

It’s possible that the relationships will decrease in intimacy. It’s equally possible that you’ll become much more intentional about maintaining and even increasing intimacy in some of them because a) the distance requires you to be more intentional about the relationship, and b) the distance, paradoxically, gives you enough of a psychological comfort zone to feel like you can reach out without being overwhelmed by the response. On top of that, even if you see those friends less, you may enjoy the times much more because you’re no longer numbed out and oppressed by constantly coping with working at that company.

Anyway. I relate to your thinking style. My points and predictions will likely not be 100% accurate, but I’m just writing them down here to remind you that in predicting the future, there’s room for flexibility. An inflexible negative (or positive) prediction is often a give-away that you’re dealing with an emotional projection rather than a balanced assessment of likelihood.

Trust yourself. Your deep nature literally passionately wants to be happy. It’s going to motivate you to work to make that happen (as you’ve been doing). It might take a while, but those are some pretty powerful internal resources that are working toward that end.

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Very valid points. Throughout my life I typically expect the worst in order to be prepared for it. I shouldn’t do that, but it’s been my coping mechanism for avoiding upsetting situations. Mentally preparing myself for disappointment to avoid disappointment. I know that sounds ridiculous.

Appreciate you hopping in here to present alternative ideas. You’re definitely right with these things.

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Taking control of the narrative, even a painful narrative, still gives us a (subconsciously) satisfying sense of control.

Not ridiculous at all (in my opinion). Very human. Just not ideal, much of the time. I think most of us do it sometimes. I certainly do.

Working on it.

Crap. I wonder if that’ll be my epitaph:

Worked on it

:joy: :cry: :rofl:

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Lol. I feel you. Outdated programs still being run by my mind. I think being able to see it for what it is does help.

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First day running my new custom. Going to keep a close watch on how I respond to it internally. I’ve got two major changes to it that I’m curious about. 1 is I took out blue skies, so I’ll see how heavy that actually was processing wise. And two using a different name for the custom.

So far it’s been about an hour after listening. Usually around this time I’ll start sensing a heavy feeling in my chest and a feeling of wanting to self isolate and get away. I’m currently off from my job so I’m not getting that right now. The real test will be when I go back to work. I think I understand what was going on with that feeling. But it was too heavy , it was like hitting a brick wall and having to stop doing anything. It wasn’t bad for growth, but it led to issues doing my job which in turn caused more stress. Sort of like a re-prioritization of what needs focus and while the focus on my personal life was very important, it was just too tunnel visioned. Needed to dial it back a bit so my day to day life wasn’t quite so difficult when running the sub.

If it’s really just the processing of Qv2 I might have to switch sub listening to the afternoon when I don’t have to engage in demanding mental activity.

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Well it definitely slammed me. I’m going to have to adjust to this new custom a bit.

Having said that I noticed myself slipping into these negative “what the hell do I do” states. But I was able to take a step back and tell myself that’s just now, don’t project this onto all of the future. Just calm down, today might be rough but tomorrow is another day. I’m trying to be better with pulling myself out of bad mental states, I might not be able to do a complete 180 but I can definitely prevent myself from spiraling.

My mind is like walking a tightrope at times, but I feel like I’ve been getting better so I’ll take it. One day I hope that tightrope is more of a solid bridge I cross. It’s still lengthy and requires effort, but there’s not this unending fear of falling into some abyss with one wrong step.

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I’m wondering if supplementing what you are doing with Sanguine and/or Elixir from the main shop might help. What are your thoughts?

I keep coming back to the idea it might be best to focus on slow GENTLE healing like FEBRUUS and “Stress Displacement” type modules, rather than I AM type modules.

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I’m an HSP, and FEBRUUS plus Pride Unbroken threw me for a real loop.

Taught me respect. Good prep for Dragon Reborn.

Now I play 1 loop 3 times a week. :rofl:

Ooops, sorry @Malkuth … I was wanting to get @Fractal_Explorer 's attention.

I must admit, you got an insightful answer and I wouldn’t have expected those 2 modules to throw you for a loop.

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I am (in my odd way) agreeing with you. I think you’re quite right. Just adding on to what you wrote to emphasize that FEBRUUS has a real effect.

At that time, I had been following a listening schedule that was much more frequent than what is currently recommended and that’s part of why I got knocked back.

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I’m definitely planning on supplementing with both of those throughout my week. And I agree with you. The only really challenging module in my custom right now is probably ascension. Maybe ares as well.

FEBRUUS however had me hesitant. I like the idea of slow gentle healing, but in practice I don’t know if it would be best for me. I’m avoidant by nature, meaning my mind seeks any opportunity to get out of what makes it uncomfortable. The indirectness of gentle healing feels like it would work against me. The key seems to be having enough internal pressure to change but not so much as to overwhelm me. My choice of ARES in the custom was to offset the gentleness of negativity displacer and keep a balanced approach towards handling those inner issues.

I guess the problem is how these modules say they work could be very different once they enter my mind. And I don’t really know having had limited experience with them. So I’m more inclined to lean on the ones that are more relentless and not the ones that might have holes in them for my mind to escape through.

ARES is definitely more of an experiment in this custom, it was either that or FEBRUUS and I felt ARES was the way to go.

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