Less or more dreams with new anti-recon tech?

Who has fewer or quieter dreams since the introduction of the new anti-recon tech.
Edit: Or more dreams.

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None of the above. I have more dreams and they are more vivid and busy.

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Thanks for your reply. I am curious about the impact of the new tech on our dreams.
I had less dreams since i am using the new files.

Thats the question. Thanks again for reporting.

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Yeah for me dreams have never felt as a sign of recon, Dreams are a sign of processing or integration.
A place when I can explore what I need to work on, or a place were I can get a glimpse of whats to come.

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Yes, that’s how I see it too. It’s another thing when the dreams become very distressing and turn into nightmares. Therefore, people who have problems with it should improve with the new tech.

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I wouldn’t say I have more or less dreams, but the types have changed.

Normally I would get normal kind of sexual dreams (think lucifer style), but that’s because I used to be way too sexual, but ever since using customs in ZP, it doesn’t matter what my lifestyle or habits are like, I still only dream of things related to my custom(s), or about issues that need to be dealt with.

Oh and the occasional dreams from the other “me” :sweat_smile:

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Thanks for reporting!

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I don’t dream, at least I don’t ever recall I had one. After listening to refreshed stage 1 of DR, nothing changed. Still no dreams.

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Thanks for the info. Curious to hear more reports.

Unfortunately this is the case with me while using zp . Dream recalling disappeared . Jus little dreams on the wash out period .

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Oh no, not the dreaded side effect of less nightmares!!! I must pull ZP off the shelves!

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Less dreams = good, in my books. Oura disagrees… but too bad Oura, I’d MUCH rather have deep sleep than dreams. :stuck_out_tongue:

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No , what is happening with zp is not LESS dreams this is far away from the truth . ( We speak about recalling of dreams ) . Your recalling ability is diminished . Why herein lies the secret with zp .

  1. Actually because you now have more dreams so you are not able to recall them .
  2. that’s why you are not supposed to play more than 2 loops , and if you played 3 m only you will start to recall your dreams

If you are attentive enough and read between lines, you will understand why recalling dreams is diminished with zp compared to other versions .

:point_down::point_down::point_down::point_down:

  • Diminished doesn’t mean BAD :wink:
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Same amount of dreams and the same type of dreams for me.

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I would like to say that my dreams got really vivid to the point were I was reading out small tattoos while in the dream.

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My dream recall dropped dramatically with ZP (even before anti-recon tech), unless Paragon is in my stack. I’m not sure why, but it’s very noticeable. Without Paragon, I wake knowing I had lots of dreams, but can’t recall any of them.

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I didn’t say anything about recall, I’m just saying Oura thinks high amounts of REM is good, whereas I’d rather have high amounts of deep sleep instead.

I’m also on a washout week at the moment, so not listening to any ZPs, new or otherwise. :upside_down_face:

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My dreams while having Paragon in my stack were pretty nuts!

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Interesting reports so far. Unfortunately, no scheme can be derived from this. The experiences are too different for that. Lets see how it goes on. The new tech is still young. But you can clearly see how individual the experience is with ZP before or after the refresh. One has more, the other can remember less of his dreams. Does better sub processing mean more dreams or less? Or do you only have more dreams when you hear a new sub for the first time? New stimulus.
According to my theory, dreams should be calmer under the new tech and turn into nightmares less often.
Also interesting were the two reports by @Jupiter and @sid, whose ability to remember dreams has decreased since they heard zp. The reaction of the subconscious seems to be more positive than before with q. Maybe that means that in these cases the subconscious is less stressed and processing takes place much more smoothly. In other words, the processing takes place deeper.
If i see a sub as a stimulus for the subconscious and dreams as a direct answer it would all make sense. Too strong stimulus leads to a harsh response.
Everything else that the subconscious processes at night moves within a certain framework that no one can explain. It’s all just a guess and I’m only writing this here because I’m passionate about dreams. They are just a door to our subconscious and that’s why it is so important to understand the messages. Anybody tried the sub DREAMS?
Let’s see what is reported next.

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I have an oura ring too. I am also seeing many times a small amount of REM like you and Deep sleep around 2 hours when I was listening to major titles.
But since I am listening to customs I have more REM and a little bit worse DEEP.
Yesterday I listened to two customs, both for 5 minutes.

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