This actually answered my questions also. I ran Ascension for 3 cycles then I switched to Paragon for physical healing and I’m on my third cycle. I have been running Genesis happiness and joy with it. Maybe I shouldn’t have done that but my physical issues are be addressed and improving. So I was thinking about going into Khan but after reading this I’m thinking about running Emperor and plan C. I read somewhere that it was recommended to run Primal with Emperor or is it best to run all of Plan C solo?
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Up to you, my friend. Previously Primal and Emperor had parts of them in Khan. But now with all their scripts rewritten, it doesn’t matter much in terms of common scripts but rather getting used to the density and reconciliation of less denser scripts compared to more dense scripts.
If you want the benefits of Primal, run it before you run Khan. Same with Emperor (especially if you feel you want to achieve some productivity goals in life before running Khan.
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I am 52 years old so would you recommend Emperor Daddy over Emperor?
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Emperor Daddy is more relaxed than Emperor. If you prefer that, go with Emperor Daddy.
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It depends what your goals are. What are you looking to do or accomplish?
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The quick answer is to attract and date my ideal woman or women and wealth. The sales page of Khan caught my attention. So my plan is to run Khan but something Lion posted was the ideal would be to run Ascension (which I did 3 cycles) and Emperor then Dragon Reborn Red then Khan. As for wealth, I don’t know how that is going to shake out. I’m not working right now and my previous occupation was as a low voltage technician in the field of Access Control. Unless you own your own company it’s not a path to wealth and I’m not interested in owning that type of business. At least that’s where I stand right now.
The issues I’ve had with women are that I have been pretty successful in the past in dating women that are not my ideal. Basically outside of a few instances I typically settle and it doesn’t work out. I’m thinking that the combo of DR Red and Khan will flush out the insecurity and limiting beliefs. And Emperor is a good step in the progression in running those major programs.
DR is for those who have serious issues to deal with, like being victims of constant abuse, for example. If not, running Total Breakdown (Khan stage 1) is the way to go.
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Oh ok thank you for that info.
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If you feel that there are still some unfavorable mental and behavioral patterns that you want to get rid off, then Phoenix is the best tool to tackle them.
Is that after I run all stages of Khan?
I would run it beforehand, pairing it with either Ascension or Primal, depending on which direction you want to grow. Ascension for general development as a man, and Primal for developing as a sexual man with excellent social skills and calibration.
I see that you’ve run Ascension. Anyhow, with Phoenix you would go way beyond what you achieved with Acension alone.
Since I did 3 cycles of Ascension already, I’m thinking then Primal and Phoenix. Do you recommend Emperor before running Khan? I’ve seen that recommendation in other posts from Lion.
Yes, running Emperor before Khan makes perfect sense. However, keep in mind that it’s not about time frames (the number of cycles) but rather the actual progress you’ve made with the sub you’re running. If you believe you’ve achieved at least 50% of what Ascension offers, then the next natural step for your goals would be running Emperor.
That said, in my humble opinion, Emperor should be run once you’ve finished healing and eliminating the most detrimental patterns (Phoenix works like a charm for this) and have built a solid “alpha-male base/frame/lifestyle” (Ascension is all about that). If you feel you’ve completed that essential groundwork, then yes, Emperor would be the way to go before moving on to Khan. Emperor—which focuses on building your small empire or crafting a reality where you fully lord over your life—would be the best foundation for running Khan.
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I don’t know if I have achieved 50% of Ascension. I’d have to go back and read the sales page. Do you recommend running Phoenix solo or mix it with Ascension?
Both. It’s an excelent pair to build solid foundations for further self-development.
Ok I think I should revisit Ascension as I just read the sales page and I’ll add Phoenix. I stopped to run Paragon to address some physical issues. I’m not fully healed but I think it did its job and I found the help that I need.
Most of people here would greatly benefit from running this pair, yet they choose to work with subs they deem their dream subs instead. But no dream lasts on quicksand. Laying a solid foundation is essential for reforging our character and shaping our destiny. Don’t rush the process. Embrace it and do what you must… become what you must.
Cheers, mate.
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Thank you for all of your advice and I agree with you. One last question. What do you think of adding The Will To Power to the Ascension and Phoenix stack? I was reading some other posts about that sub or do you think to just wait on that one?
There couldn’t be a better stack to prepare for Emperor and Khan.
I would run Ascension and Phoenix for 2-3 weeks, and if there aren’t significant side effects from the reconciliation, I would add The Will to Power to the stack.
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Awesome. Sounds like a plan. Thank you again for taking the time to give me some advice