I’m afraid of running khan before/during the holiday season because I’m afraid I’ll be crazy and an a-hole around my family and others. I don’t want that. So does it or can it make one an a-hole? What’re people’s experience here?
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You make yourself an a-hole or not. The sub has nothing to with it . @SaintSovereign always talks about free will. Remember?
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It was designed to help you become a better person. To help you acquire or develop qualities to explore the world without on your own, to become a master of your chosen skill, to dominate, experienced success after success, including romance. But you need to become aware of your state, your hindrances in order to get to that part.
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The solution is to intentionally focus on being a caring, just, compassionate person. Take that as a specific part of your values and you’ll not only be fine with Khan, you’ll be excellent with it.
But if you leave things on auto-pilot, then implicit cultural scripts take up the slack, and in that case you may find yourself defaulting to a-hole choices.
The cultural default is to use posturing and denial to avoid being reminded of your vulnerabilities. This is labeled as strength; and it tends to make people harsher and more dismissive of others. The truth is that it takes more courage and strength to maintain an active awareness of your vulnerabilities; since you have to be willing to feel the discomforts when they come. There’s nothing un-Khan about that. Running from vulnerability is more of a cultural norm than an archetypally Khan norm.
Khan challenges you to choose; and to stand in your choices.
But what exactly you choose is up to you.
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Like all Subliminal Club products, they work by removing inner blocks, which means that if, deep down, you have tendencies toward arrogance or being difficult, these traits might come to the surface. However, I believe you’re mature enough to consciously guide your behavior and choose not to exhibit these traits unless the situation truly calls for them.
You come across as mature in your posts and times when we have DM,d each other.
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I’ve never used Khan before… but i have had to stop running many Alpha subs due to them causing me to become domineering , mean and display a-hole behaviors.
Even a recent favourite of mine, SB, i had to stop for awhile even with the ethical dominance scripting inside.
Some of us, like me, get affected more by dominance and alpha scripting which can push us towards asshole tendencies.
I can’t speak for others and can only share my own experience but it really is very hard to consciously control these behaviors, if you have to a tendency to react to dominance and alpha scripting like that.
My advice is to play it safe for now and run it after the holidays.
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Or just be an asshole : ) hahaha
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Combine it with Love Bomb, LBFH, Chosen, or something similar and you are safe.
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I have mainly ran TB for a cycle from time to time. Mainly for growth as I dont plan to dedicate time to Khan at this point in time anyways, can it make you more aggressive? Yes. Just like Emperor, Ascension, Primal, Stark, etc…if you are someone that has had a hard time setting boundaries with others and you listen to an alpha sub and all of a sudden you get blasted with confidence, can understandably lead to aggression if not handled properly.
I have had moments like that myself to where I caught myself and calmed down before I did/said something stupid and there were times where I didn’t. That said on Khan when I have my emotions in check I am actually very well spoken and I become a gentleman that is not a “nice guy” in any shape or form
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No subliminal over here (including Khan) will make you an asshols. But what possibly could is the recon.
When the mind feels overloaded, it can also feel irritated and this usually leads to an outburst.
If you are running Khan (and especially Total Breakdown which tends to give recon the first time you run it), it would be better to run microloops to reduce the recon and hence the “assholeness”. Either that or save it until the holidays are over.
If you are running Khan, you could take a washout during that time and resume OGK after the season is over.
Another idea is to stack it with titles like LBH or the new AoH which will make recon more bareable. I think DD is also a good idea. Helps you be more social.
Happy holidays!
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It technically could make you into an asshole if you see the archetype as some sort of type like that. Personally I think people have the most recon on khan because they have a hard time when they are told they come off as mean or as some sort of “bad guy” to others. Beware those who might feel insecure around you can also use this as a weapon against you. Try to bully you into submission by pointing fingers. Nothing wrong with coming off as an asshole in it of itself. Just because you look like one to someone else doesn’t mean you are. You know who you are and you know your values. And hey! Even if you actually did act immaturely and fucked up, how the hell can you master yourself and be better at “being just” if you run away from that literal training ground called khan. If anything, with time you will grow in maturity immensely I could imagine. As long as you keep it in the back of your mind.
Love me some khan : )
no h8 guys you all have great points.
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Khan might have a polarizing effect.
From the sales page:
“You will become intimately aware of your innermost sides, good and bad, and you will likely become a polarizing individual – some will love you, some will hate you, but all will respect you. Your relationships will be changed for the better, but people will inevitably test you to see whether the changes and growth occurring within you are real.”
So some people might think you are an asshole. However as people have said above, you are the one who chooses how to act and treat others.
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Please put it in this thread, my friend::
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Oops sorry, i was thinking that i wrote it in that exact page.
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Just run it along with art of happiness. You won’t be an asshole.
For me on k st1, i was deeply introspective. I was always polite with others. I came off as serious. And I walked with a plan in mind.
People will begin to respect you more.
I don’t think I ever was an asshole and im gonna start st4 after washout.
And remember, a sub can never make you do anything that you dont want to
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It definitely won’t turn you into a complete a-hole and make you act crazy. You might become a bit more blunt in your conversations, but you won’t lose control. In fact, in my case, Khan made me gain much greater control of my emotions. Even if someone were to say to me something that I don’t like, I have enough control to take a second to address their comment and respond accordingly. But no aggression.
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No, it won’t “make you” anything. However, yes, running Khan ST1 can cause some difficult emotions to surface. Most likely you have some difficult emotions about your family members (most people do) and they might surface while your around them, and making your holiday season a little more difficult that you wanted to. Because you might experience the whole spectrum of negative emotions.
If you struggle to control and transmute intense negative emotions, it’s possible you could lash out and act like an asshole. But, you of course always have a choice.
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This
5char!
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My experience is solely based on Stage 1. I have just finished my second cycle of Stage 1. It definitely doesn’t turn you in to an A - hole. I feel and act pretty much the same as I always have except that I am now coming from a place of confidence and power. I worry much less than I used to, I don’t worry much about what people think of me anymore, (I used to alot). Overall I think it’s probably made less of an A - hole. Better emotional control, I don’t feel the need to prove myself anymore and leaves me less likely to get involved in petty arguments to prove a point to myself or other people. That said I still stand my ground when I need to but in a more quiet and confident way.
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It depends on the person.
Some have a smooth ride from the start,
others have tons of emotional ups and downs first few cycles. it depends on how much needs to be healed and a bunch of other stuff. I guess you can’t know until you won’t try.
You could wait until new years (but I guess you already know that)
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