Is it harmful to listen to too much subliminals?

[Malkuth]

I thought I alluded to that indirectly by making direct statements towards what was true.

Then you most likely did.

[DarkPrince]

Then you most likely did.

Haha, perfect.

[Malkuth]

My one question/potential criticism:

All that you’ve typed seems mainly focused on subliminals and processing subliminals.

But my goal (and I think this is true for many here) is not to become an expert subliminal-listener.

It’s to become better at living my real life, and to achieve desired conditions and circumstances in my life.

So my question:

how do the patterns you’re describing correlate with practical changes and conditions that you’re experiencing in your life?

[Rusty1]

I think saint and fire conducted an experiment sometime ago with testers who reported better results after taking 2 rest days(and listening in the day oppose to in the night)

cant find the link, but id like to know if it’s validated or not @SaintSovereign @Fire

[Malkuth]

I think saint and fire conducted an experiment sometime ago with testers who reported better results after taking 2 rest days(and listening in the day oppose to in the night)

They definitely did, but @Meng123 you’ve made me lazy!!! I don’t even want to look for it! haha.

[Meng123]

Its somewhere in this thread

Experimental Listening Pattern

Just wanted to drop a note here about some interesting research results that we’ve observed in our secondary private testing group (those who don’t post here). We’ve been experimenting with different listening patterns to see which garners better results. We’ve observed promising evidence that the best results come from listening to the stack during the day and not playing them at all during the night. We’re also observing good results from taking a “rest day” once a week and not listening to th…

Experimental Listening Pattern

No, not necessarily. What I reported was that those who tried the experimental listening pattern and listened only during reported more pronounced results than those who listened while sleeping. Also, those who took a “rest day” noted pronounced results too. That being said, this is all subjective, but I’d imagine that there’s something as “too much” listening, just like going to the gym. I believe there needs to be a period where the mind is processing.

[Hoppa]

Well the pattern of high loops gives me faster results and it’s part of my subliminal routine.
I’m getting very fast real congruent results.

Now the question is: Is it just you? (I’m kind of in the same boat)

I just got the Alchemist Qv2. Been running St1 with high loops. I do feel some kind of pressure in my head. I do remember feeling the same back when I started EmperorQ testing. Also feeling a bit more sleepy during the day, compared to not running the subs.

I decided to test this, as my tests with less loops on Qv2 didn’t do much.

And my head can explode only once, so what is there to fear?

[Malkuth]

One regret (not really, but can’t think of a better term) that I have is never pushing the envelope on my Terminus tracks. I was running other programs so I basically kept the Terminus tracks on a low-level maintenance frequency. So I don’t know how that might have impacted my results. But it was definitely worth it to get other things done.

[Hoppa]

never pushing the envelope on my Terminus tracks.

I thought this is a good test for me. Emperor and EoG were close to my goals from the beginning. I knew a lot about the business side topics and so on.

But now with the Alchemist, I’m totally outside of my comfort zone. Now I can see if there will be stonewalling. Or recon.

Edit: The business is going forward without the subs too, so I don’t know if I was stonewalling at the end. The growth started with pre Q EoG and now I have a team working on it.

With Alchemist it’s just me.

[Malkuth]

The business is going forward without the subs too, so I don’t know if I was stonewalling at the end. The growth started with pre Q EoG and now I have a team working on it.

Something tells me you both a) manifested that team and b) are exerting your wealth-manifestation and business effects through them.

[Hoppa]

a) manifested that team

This is definitely true.

b) are exerting your wealth-manifestation and business effects through them.

This one might be true.

But was it only because I integrated the preQ EoG so well and was stonewalling on EmperorQ? Just continued on the same track? My intuition tells me that I was not stonewalling on Q subs with the 20+ hours/day listening.

[Malkuth]

But was it only because I integrated the preQ EoG so well and was stonewalling on EmperorQ? Just continued on the same track? My intuition tells me that I was not stonewalling on Q subs with the 20+ hours/day listening

Do you write about the stonewalling experience somewhere? I think I don’t know that much about it.

EDIT: Just searched a bit and found some mention of it. Running high loops. But all along low subjective ‘feelings’ of subliminals. Not sure if stonewalling. Right?

[Hoppa]

Do you write about the stonewalling experience somewhere? I think I don’t know that much about it.

No. I don’t think this was the case for me.

Now that I am listening to high loops of Qv2, I do remember that I had this same type of pressure feeling when I started with high loops of Q. Not sure if it was quite this intense, it was when EmperorQ test started.

Just searched a bit and found some mention of it. Running high loops. But all along low subjective ‘feelings’ of subliminals. Not sure if stonewalling. Right?

Yeah. Then again, I get great results from the subs. Not just feeling them so intensely as others are.

Edit: Another thing worth noting is that I’m currently running single stack Alchemist Qv2. I did the same with Emperor Q test.

[AlexanderGraves]

The subconscious mind can’t be “overloaded” in a processing/information context

This, however, is a definite statement you simply CANNOT know if true or not.

RIght?

I mean, HOW would you know?

Much like we (or even our 2 founder kings) cannot explain how Aura titles work. We just know THAT they work. Real-life experience.

Which is EXACTLY your point. You tested and experimented, and rest days are bad for you.

I actually welcome this, more people should test what works for them instead of just blindly following the recommendations. I also do agree that “2 rest days” is not just from testers, it is most likely also the path of least resistance when it comes to dealing with Tickets and people having headaches lol
After all, headaches going away is very likely with rest days.

We’re also observing good results from taking a “rest day” once a week

Again, Saint and Fire are virtually just testing with people and how they react. But every person is different.

You say for example this:

IMO the actual difference between Qv1 and Qv2 in the grand scheme of things - is hardly anything.

Not for me. But it’s not how much of results I get, it’s how well I can take the script.

On Q I am almost immediately in recon, most likely due to the healing in it. QV2 is much easier on me. I still get recon, but not as severe AND I get more results. I tested this.
Maybe, again, this is just me.

However, I will also try and test a heavier load of loops and no rest days once I am on Khan ST4. Just curious.

Also this:

We’ve observed promising evidence that the best results come from listening to the stack during the day

This seems to be the case for me. When I listen while sleeping it ruins the sleep sometimes, and I feel I get more recon from the sub when I listen to it during the day.

Then again, they say about 20% can’t listen to it while sleeping.

Too bad, Saint and Fire can’t REALLY give out their findings due to competitors.

[Malkuth]

So basically, you don’t get the subjective fireworks that some people get. But you also don’t get any negative symptoms either. Just a kind of vague pressure sensation that doesn’t really cause discomfort?

That’s pretty interesting.

Edit: Another thing worth noting is that I’m currently running single stack Alchemist Qv2. I did the same with Emperor Q test.

That is an awesome approach. Just pure focus.

Reminds me of the Zen saying:

吃飯時吃飯，睡覺時睡覺

When it’s eating time, I eat; When it’s sleeping time, I sleep. (i.e., not pulled in many directions. present and focused.)

[Hoppa]

So basically, you don’t get the subjective fireworks that some people get. But you also don’t get any negative symptoms either. Just a kind of vague pressure sensation that doesn’t really cause discomfort?

That’s pretty interesting.

What is more interesting that I had to go away from my computer where I listen for 35 minutes and the pressure got lighter. Now that I am back it’s back to the same level. It gets lighter immediately if I go away for a moment.

This seems to be the case for me. When I listen while sleeping it ruins the sleep sometimes, and I feel I get more recon from the sub when I listen to it during the day.

I sleep better with the subs running.

[AlexanderGraves]

Waiting for the mods to come to this thread like…

@RVconsultant @DarkPhilosopher

[DarkPhilosopher]

But the hood is so much more comfortable. Armor makes me grumpy.

Now why are we being spammed with flags?

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By the Pope!

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Okay, I need to think about this… I’ll be back. For now, I’d very much appreciate 3 things:

1. For DarkPrince to not talk in public about swinging his enormous manhood around.
2. For DarkPrince and blackadder to please restrain yourself from continuing this discussion. Should you do, it may be counted against you.
3. For @Malkuth to let me/us know if he felt in any way as if he was being patronized. I can’t follow every conversation but I wouldn’t mind knowing if Malkuth felt if it was a friendly conversation or not.

Thank you for your consideration and your patience.

I leave you guys alone for 8 hours…

[Malkuth]

@DarkPhilosopher

For @Malkuth to let me/us know if he felt in any way as if he was being patronized.

I assume we’re talking about this bit of witty exchange between Prince and me.

@Malkuth

Well… duh?

I like the ‘duh’ with question mark. It’s pleasantly confusing

Patronized? No,

I took that ‘Well…duh?’ as the earnest and pithy existential comment that it was intended to be.

Seriously though, I think we got past that fairly quickly.

I found the whole exchange pretty amusing, if somewhat pointless. Then we had a good talk about something else over on another thread.

I was busy all day trying to get through these damned reports and this was a funny diversion. But I do appreciate my brother @TheBoxingScientist. (Not one of the alphas to say ‘duh’ to. You might get a virtual handprint on your face.).

In conclusion,

(yes, that’s intentional.)

[pacman]

You might get a virtual handprint on your face.).