If you run an ultima mon-thu at 1 loop like in the instructions is it considered a booster or a major in a stack?
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You mean only run Ultima? If that’s the question, yes it is similar to running a major title
I would say running it regularly 4 days a week would constitute calling it a major program rather than a booster
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More that in the multistack instructions the example looks like this
Day 1: Emperor (2x), Limitless (2x), Optional Ultima (1x)
Day 2: Emperor (2x), Regeneration (2x), Optional Ultima (1x)
Day 3: Emperor (2x), Limitless (2x), Optional Ultima (1x)
Day 4: Emperor (2x), Regeneration (2x), Optional Ultima (1x)
What im curious about is if you used the same ultima for all of the optional ultima days,would it still be considered a booster or a major title cause the recommendations were
Next, we recommend that you stack a maximum of three major titles, plus one Ultima (if used as a booster). If you’re using an Ultima as a major title (for example, listening to Beyond Limitless Ultima in the same way as you’d listen to Limitless), that will take up the spot of one of your major titles. To illustrate:
Three major titles, plus one Ultima as a booster
Two major titles, one Ultima used as a major title, plus one Ultima as a booster
So what makes it a major title instead of a booster,number of loops or number of days in a row?
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Im considereing that possibility but this part confuses me
Please refrain from attempting to “cheat” these recommendations. Don’t try and use an Ultima as a major title one day, booster as the next day as an attempt to skirt the recommendations (unless you’re experimenting and you’re aware of the potential pitfalls)
Cause if it was days in a row,it wouldnt be possible to try to use an ultima as a major title one day and a booster the next so im not sure
Yes it’s a bit confusing. The way I read it is if you use it daily, on a regular basis, then it’s no longer a booster. If you use it sparingly (say once or twice a week) then it is a booster. Definitely if you are running it 2x a day every day that would make it a major title rather than a booster. 1x/day is a grey area but again if used regularly that still makes it a major title at that point (in my opinion).
I’d be interested to know what @SaintSovereign has to say on the matter though, as I’m often proven wrong by him 
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Ah okay. I got your question. The only time Ultimas become main titles is when you only run Ultimas
For example, if I have a playlist of Limitless Executive Ultima and Paragon Ultima, then one of them will become the major title depending on which one I play more loops of and the other becomes a booster
If i run an Ultima with standard titles (custom or otherwise), the Ultima is the Booster
I think it’s less an issue of frequency as it is one of intent.
I’m running RebirthU 2 days and ElixirU 2 days. But my “Major” ones are a 3-stack rotation of BILLionaire, Regen and Khan1. I doubt I’ll be doing Ultima as a “Major” anytime soon…at least unless I can find a higher-quality headset to use for work.
I will explain with examples
Options when Ultima is only a booster:
- Ascended Mogul + Limitless Executive Ultima (LE U is the booster)
- Ascended Mogul + Primal Seduction + Limitless Executive Ultima
(LE U is the booster) - Ascended Mogul + Primal Seduction + Sex Mastery + Limitless Executive Ultima
(LE U is the booster)
Options when Ultimas could be a main title:
- Paragon Ultima
(P U is the main title) - Paragon Ultima + Limitless Executive Ultima
(P U will be the main title in this case and Le U the booster: P U x 3 + LE U x 1
And
LE U will be the main title in this case and P U the booster: LE U x 3 + P U x 1)
Something like that
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Haha,i thought so cause i originally thought ultima were always boosters until the instructions came out so still dont understand this part.
If you’re using an Ultima as a major title (for example, listening to Beyond Limitless Ultima in the same way as you’d listen to Limitless), that will take up the spot of one of your major titles.
Whether loops or days for running in same way
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Yup. That’s it
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Lol, I suspect you’re doing this right now. If you run it every day at one loop as the instructions said, it’s a booster. That’s the point of Ultima, to boost results by running it one time a day. When you run it 3-4+ loops a day, that’s using it as a major subliminal. Some people were running it at 5 loops + the rest of their stack and claiming they were using it as a “booster.” No, at 5 loops, that’s definitely using it like you would a major sub.
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Ah,k.thanks alot,that cleared it up for me.so its loops not days that makes it a major program.nope,been running my custom ultima mon-thu for 1 loop like in the instructions.was just worried i was doing it wrong by running it for multiple days a week.sex mastery in ultima form is having some effects but still not amazing yet.hope it gets better with more exposure(^-^)
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Just to clarify, if I run Paragon Ultima for 4+ loops a day and Dragon Reborn for 2 loops a day, will that make Paragon Ultima the major title? Or will Paragon still remain a booster since am running it with a major title like DR? I am guessing it is the latter
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honestly on the safe side
If your stacking 2-3 Q programs and run 2 or more loops of 2 of those Q programs in a day
Ultima as a booster is 1 loop a day
Ultima as a main program is 2 or more loops.
If your running 1-2 Q programs
same applies
If your running 1 Q program same would apply
I’d go with 1 loop a day with the occasional 2 loops for Ultima as a booster-any more loops than that daily Ultima should be considered a major program
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I was wondering what Saint meant when he wrote this. Is it a hint that Ultimas could be treated like major subs?
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I think that would definitely qualify Paragon as a major program.
But that sounds like a great plan if health is your top priority.
You could still run Lion Q 1-2x a day and be within recommendations.
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