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#146

Again, mate. Don’t follow us as we’re still testing out this approach, meaning, there are more things that need to get uncovered and that takes time. On top of that, the recommended listening pattern works very well for a vast number of people, some of them report excellent results when running micro loops.

Another thing is, there are factors which are equally or even more important for your results and growth than the amount of subliminal input. The way you work with your subs is the most vital factor.

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#147

Okay, I repeated several cycles, it enhances the effect but not much)

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#148

WB is tackling everything that is standing on its way to the higher levels of its execution, for example:

  • It’s made me really comfortable with communicating with people by touch, and thanks to that I’m way more socially influential.
  • It made me realize that I would always be in a responsive mode, where I would always be attuned to people around me, reacting/responding in a way that would make me cater to other people’s psychological needs whilst I’m destined (capable of) to set my own rhythm people attune to. That realization and getting attuned to my own rhythm in social context even more helped me execute that part of WB that makes you nonchalant and the “life of the party”.

The pattern I’ve been observing since I started applying the battering ram approach is like below:

The only things that seem to be permanent for the whole process are the constant oscillation between “progression” and “regression” from the baseline and soul-deep, personal and personalized recon from time to time, when the interaction between your mind and the sub (the “reprogramming”/the shifting) encounters stubborn/resistant subconscious structures/patterns. Yet, the baseline is increasing gradually and firmly.

I’m seeing some other patterns, yet I need more time to fathom their nature.

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#149

The depth and intensity of the results are NOT proportional to the amount of subliminal input, meaning twice as much of listening time DOESN’T yield twice as profound or pronounced results.

There was a misstep in applying the battering ram approach which was going for the higher number of loops too fast. It should have been done slowly and gradually in order to find my sweet spot, where adding more loops doesn’t yield any significant improvement when it comes to the depth and intensity of the results.

There’s also one more pattern where it looks like the mind gets accommodated to the amount of subliminal input pretty quickly that allows it to handle the input with ease. However, it doesn’t translate to any significant improvement in the results. At least not immediately.

I’m not going to post my observations or insights on the battering ram approach any longer as I understand and respect Subliminal Club’s precaution expressed by @SaintSovereign on the other thread.

However, to sum up the whole experience, I can tell that listening to WB 8 times more than the official recommendations say didn’t yield 8 times more intense or profound results. Although I saw a significant improvement in the results, I didn’t increase the amount of exposure gradually in order to find my sweet spot (which could have been the recommended listening pattern - running WB two loops every other day or not much more than that) and that alone invalidates my methodology (yet not the battering ram approach in itself) and misleads other people who may assume that running higher amounts of loops right of the bat is the way to go. No, it’s not.

The most vital thing is how we work with the sub and working with it in accordance with the recommended listening pattern yields excellent results as all of us know.

My apologies to @WorldOvertaker @Sebastian_Po @HyperMan and everyone who got “inspired” by my approach.

From now on I’ll be posting my results on WB that are related to the scripting alone and not my observations or insights on how the tech affects me when using the battering ram approach.

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#150

I stick to the battering approach. However, mind that I’m an advanced subliminal user and I don’t recommend that approach to anyone, let alone to people who are not proficient at self-introspection, monitoring and moderating their thoughts, feelings and behaviour. Like Fire said since it applies to my approach:

I’m looking for my sweet spot where more exposure wouldn’t yield more pronounced or more profound results. I may decrease or increase the exposure time accordingly down the road, yet I won’t be posting about that as my sweet spot is mine alone, everyone has their own, therefore, apart from imperiling someone’s progress that information is just irrelevant.

WB is doing the best job for me when it comes to self-love, self-assurance and self-care. That helps me unfold my inborn beauty (physical and “spiritual”) and charm. I’m like a star that shines all the more every single day. I can see it in the mirror, in the way I move and talk, in the way people respond to me. It’s like becoming more ethereal. Like a magnificent piece of art amidst the grossness of the world. However, there’s no disdain for other people in me or any pride but just a cool acceptance of my real beauty. It looks as if my beauty was the pure emanation of my mind.

Emanation… I can see how all the inner changes are emanating into the world around me, slowly reshaping my reality.

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#151

I’ll be making adjustments to my listening pattern within the battering ram approach down the road yet I won’t be posting about that because I find it irrelevant since everyone is different and every sub is different. On top of that, I don’t want to imperil anyone’s journey.

I’ve changed the definition of my sweet spot. It’s about getting into and maintaining “subliminal flow”. I cannot describe it any better but as a state where you’re powerfully focused on what the scripting is making you focused on and being driven by it as if you were on autopilot (at least this is how I’m experiencing it right now). It’s about finding an “optimal subliminal flow”.

All I’m doing right now is totally effortless as it’s the pure emanation of my inner state. I’m manifesting WB’s objectives more effectively and profoundly. My voice has changed so has my manner of speaking and interacting with people. It’s definitely more like WB’s spirit.

The oscillation between the “regression” and “progression” has got minimized as well. I haven’t got any significant recon for a couple of days now, apart from feeling a bit down upon “pondering on life” last evening.

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#152

My subliminal flow (the focus and drive I’ve got thanks to the subliminal input) is so high that the emanation (taking action and manifesting through aligning with the scripting organically just by following my intuition) is so intense that I don’t need any conscious guidance or premeditation to do or manifest what the scripting is aimed at. All of that is happening just by “going with the subliminal flow”. I suppose it’s strongly related to the mechanics of WB where the main focus is a boost of your masculine and seductive qualities, and their unhindered emanation.

Last night, I made some adjustments to the amount of my subliminal input and I’m closer to my “optimal subliminal flow”. I’m going to observe how it works for me for some time and then decide upon any further adjustments. For now, it’s working great for me.

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#153

I’m becoming more and more aligned with those aspects of my Zero Point that are targeted by WB’s scripting. That involves doing the shadow work on the deeper levels, where all that is dark, cold and violent in me is being worked through.

The patterns of the whole “subliminal” process stays the same: Self-Recognition->Self-Acknowledgement->Self-Alignment->Emanation->Self-Guidance (Conscious Guidance)->Action->Manifestation.

The whole subliminal process is guided and driven by my subconscious mind almost entirely. It’s a matter of my choice only when it involves Self-Guidance. Action and Manifestation result organically from the whole process and choices made by me. All I need to do is to choose and intend.

The inner changes in me in such a short span of time are incredible. Lots of inner work has been done is such a short span of time (one month only). The most obvious indicator that the changes are even more profound since I adjusted my listening routine last Sunday is my voice, that’s changed and it’s “evolving” towards more masculine and mysterious. But my voice alone is only the tip of the ICEberg when it comes to all the changes. Most of the changes are inner and in the way how I interact with people, and how they respond to me.

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#154

I’ve been noticing this as well. After seeing your success with the battering ram approach, I basically just upped my listening to full loops, but keeping the same schedule. Basically 2 titles ran with one full loop every other day. I’ve definitely adjusted to it, and am no longer getting recon, but can’t say results wise that I’ve noticed an exponential curve with results compared to 5 minutes. Still like that I’m for sure getting the full script though with no signs of recon so will probably keep up with this format for awhile, and then with more stubborn area’s/structures, maybe adding a loop of key/targeted titles.

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#155

That’s the main assumption I base my approach on. Once I get through initial reconciliation and the oscillation between “progressions” and “regression” from the baseline has got minimalized, I may increase the exposure to tackle more stubborn/resistant subconscious structures. The alternative is giving those structures more time and working on them more consciously (by taking relevant, focused and consistent action and opening paths of manifestation) instead of just being guided and driven by the subliminal process where you only choose if you want to execute the scripting when opportunities (experiences-the NSE) arise.

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#156

All that embracing your flaws and self-love scripting is an excellent doorway to shadow work. Feeling good about any shade of mine and loving all of that in me transform my flaws and suppressed "darker"shades into new “qualities” that fuse with me seamlessly.

There’s scratching the surface no more but getting to the core of the matter.

Initiating seduction has become like breathing. One gaze, one remark and the whole dance starts. I absolutely love that subtle, ethereal dance WB helps me get into right of the bat with pretty much every woman I want.

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#157

Once you’ve worked through the stuff (certain stubborn/resistant subconscious structures) that would cause intense reconciliation you are capable of handling more subliminal input and more input seems to hit deeper, tackling more crucial subconscious structures.

That working through the aforementioned stuff doesn’t necessarily require conscious guidance or taking action but just time as most of the work is done subliminally solely.

On top of that, your intuition guides (subconscious guidance) you through life experiences, helping the shifts occur. All you need to do is to fasten the belt and enjoy the ride, making choices when relevant experiences arise. The choice is between whether you take action upon those experiences or you don’t. That’s why some months ago I mentioned on the forums that “opportunist” scripting would come in handy.

Of course, your daily intents, long-term goals and striving for their achievement help a lot, especially when following the path of the least resistance.

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#158

I forget where you posted it, but the picture of you in the hat is fantastic, your presence and energy were definitely on point and it’s clear WB is transforming you in that capacity.

I noticed on Primal you spoke a lot about your experience relating to women, socially and sexually.

From what I’ve seen in your journal on WB that’s much less. I notice I speak less about personal sexual experiences on WB as the validation of sharing feels less relevant. Is that a similar case with you, or are you more internal and reflective on WB and less socially and sexually involved?

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#159

It was because I was still uncertain on what I really wanted and I would just fuck women who were attractive enough and responsive just for its sake. Then I found that connecting with women and having a lover or two is what I want way more than just bedding women one by one.

Yes, there’s way more internal growth than actual results on WB. It’s mainly because I don’t pull the trigger “randomly” any more since I have a lover and I consider finding one more and that would be all. Moreover, WB IS a “spiritual” sub.

On the other hand, I’m considering going back on the prowl just for the thrill of it.

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#160

I can definitely confirm that based on the results I’ve been getting for the last two days which are extraordinary in terms of how I respond to reality and how it responds to me. I’ve never been so aligned with my ZP (who I really am and what I’m really capable of), yet filtered through my interpretation of WB’s scripting, as I am now, in terms of my mindset, behavior, even my ** core values**. That mind-blowing self-alignment of mine encompasses specifically what the scripting targets.

Naturally, I’ve been seeing that pattern (quoted above) since I started applying sweet spot method around 40 days ago, calling it the battering ram approach only since I though it was different from the aforementioned method. No, it’s not any different, apart from the fact that I’m focused on running one title only. However, I do it for a reason since I’m proceeding cautiously with the amount of subliminal input I’m currently processing and executing on a daily basis. Later on, once I’ve found my SWEET SPOT, I’m going to stack WB with one more title and proceed with sweet spot method accordingly, finding it for the other title and for both subs working in TANDEM.

Wherever I go I am an enigmatic and magnetic persona as it’s just the pure emanation of that high level self-alignment. All those women staring at me blatantly, mesmerized, waiting for me to just pull the trigger. They get transfixed by my ethereal and hypnotic presence. The power of the auras is just insane.

That high level self-alignment is being experienced by me as more ice in the Ice. There’s more real me (more ZP) in me. It looks like some feedback system between both minds (subconscious and conscious) is working on the higher levels of alignment, there’s much less “noise in the background” (random and irrelevant thoughts, emotions etc.) and the communication between them is more relevant and to the point (to my ZP targeted by WB’s scripting).

On another note, decreasing the volume on my phone from 50% to 30% seems to have aided the processing and execution massively.

For some reason I’ve got PS’s vibes:

Totally. All of that has got confirmed multiple times since I started applying sweet spot method over one month ago. I should have started applying that method since you came up with it. On the other hand, I tried it prior to the NSE’s release for around one or two months (in the fall of 2022), if I remember correctly, and it didn’t yield any significant improvement.

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Always getting capped at 30s with subs, anyone else?
#161

Recently, my reconciliation cycle has been getting shorter and less “intense” (in terms of unwanted side-effects), yet is has been yielding more and more profound results, the closer to my sweet spot I was.

I’ve got to the point where the “subliminal flow” is really high, and there are little to no “interruptions” (“progressions” and “regressions” from the increasing baseline) in it.

Moreover, there are two capacities; one related to handling the scripting and the other to handling the “intensity” (the power level) which are separate. I can easily handle the scripting no matter the level of the input, yet the level of the input matters when it comes to handling the intensity which is quite taxing on my mind’s performance right now.

I can also see that the Pareto principle applies to my subliminal usage. The results are not direct translation of the input. They’re not proportional to the amount of exposure, and the higher level of the exposure the less improvement any additional increase of the exposure yields.

Therefore, I needed to redefine “my sweet spot”. My sweet spot is the point where the subliminal flow is high with little to no interruptions and where the input is not too taxing on me and my mental performance.

It seems to me I’ve reached my sweet spot. I’m going to stick to it for some time to see how it goes and then introduce the other sub gradually. Upon that, I will have to find my sweet spot once again.

Another thing is, listening to subs just before going to bed is optimal since most of reconciliation seems to occur when I’m asleep. I noticed that when taking naps during the day and then I noticed that after waking up in the morning, when my reconciliation cycle is still at its peak, just to ease during the day (or shortly after taking a nap).

I feel saturated with the scripting and the power of ZP to the brim. I’ve been sticking to this amount of exposure since Friday.

The scripting execution has become flawless and fluid as if it had become my second nature, although I can feel its intensity in me. My old self, that didn’t align with the scripting, seems to have got “kicked out” for good.

I had no idea that I could ever be as self-aligned as I am now. I got the pretaste of that only once, after running EB but it was the trailer effect only that lasted one day whilst now it’s been three days already, that is since I found my sweet spot.

Once I’ve made sure that I can sustain the subliminal flow and I can handle the intensity of it at the current level of my subliminal input, I’m going to add SSX to WB in order to have them work in powerful tandem. What I want to focus on more thanks to adding SSX are:

  • Continuous positive manifestations that reshape and elevate your understanding and experience of sex, seduction and romance, ensuring every interaction is steeped in genuine connection and passion.
  • Ability to read and adapt to the desires and boundaries of those you seek to connect with.
  • Rapid adaptation to evolving relationship dynamics, ensuring you remain in the driver’s seat of your romantic journey.
  • Harmonization of your inner desires with your outer expression, creating a seamless seductive experience.

as it’s going to aid me in building a quality harem of lovers. I’m aiming at having one or two more lovers since I have one only and that’s not enough.

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#162

I’m getting slight reconciliation fog that is clouding my internal results’ perception and is causing minor internal interruptions (irrelevant thoughts and feelings). However, I can see that my outer results have got intensified. My aura, attitude and influence are stronger than they were yesterday.

For my love for SSX I’m tempted to stack it with WB right now, yet I need to observe my newfound sweet spot for at least one more week before I change anything in terms of my subliminal exposure.

On another note, I really crave for better quality women than there are available to me at the moment. However, there’s not much I can do about that if anything. All I can do is to aim at getting the best there’s in the pool.

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#163

The reconciliation fog seems to have deepened and although my reality is more aligned with the WB part of me than ever before, there are more interruptions (irrelevant thoughts and emotions = “inner motions”) occurring. On the other hand, my mind has accommodated the intensity of the subliminal input. The subliminal flow is not as smooth as it’s been for the last five days.

All of that may point to increasing the exposure even further. However, the shifts occurring in me are beyond my perception, mainly for the reconciliation fog. All I can perceive is that whatever is causing the reconciliation fog is related to the only “enemy” of mine that is merciless - social anxiety. Its level is really low, yet it’s there. That social anxiety is a response to my deepest trauma caused by my father rejecting and bullying me when I was a kid and a teenager. It’s my subconscious mind’s usual response to “social” scripting.

I’m not going to increase the exposure for the next two days to see how it goes. Ultimately, that reconciliation fog underpinning that slight social anxiety is really mild and totally manageable.

As usual, reaffirming the scripting by socializing eases that social anxiety response.

I really don’t want to increase the exposure time as I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t yield any significant improvement in terms of my results. I think it could only help me ease the aforementioned response, and that wouldn’t be applying sweet spot method, but the battering ram approach which I don’t recommend. For fighting off recon and aiding the shifts there’s nothing better than taking action and experiences corroborating the shifts.

Reaffirming the social and self-confidence parts of the scripting by taking action (socializing) and relevant experiences corroborating the scripting (the positive feedback I got from the people) has resolved that nasty response of my trauma and the reconciliation fog has lifted a lot. Good. Naturally, the passage of time and my mind going through a lot of date (the processing) helped the process tremendously.

I feel… “malleable” internally and I see how much potent the auras have become. It’s only a matter of time when the emanation of the scripting is going to start bending my reality in order to align with WB offers in terms of external results as I can clearly see the shifts towards it.

Just to clarify.

I’m applying the sweet spot method recommended by SC combined with running one title only. There’s not much original to it apart from a bit different parameters, I’ve mentioned before.

Now, I call dealing with the symptoms of reconciliation by running more loops the battering ram approach. I’m not saying it’s wrong, yet I DON’T USE IT EVER. I don’t recommend it since the best way to help reconciliation shift the resisting subconscious structures is to take action and have experiences relevant to what’s being reconciled.

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#164

For the last two or three days I’ve been getting “traumatic-response” reconciliation where some subconscious structures around my traumas have been reconciled, making me vulnerable to social cues that would trigger perceived social rejection and traumatic responses in me that stem from it.

Initially, I thought that pushing through would help me resolve those responses but it occurred that not running my loops last night did. It may be that it also aided the reconciliation.

Anyhow, I see myself tapping in my shadow and fusing with it. It is my shadow self that has no pride or compassion for people. When my shadow is “speaking” it reminds me of Fernando Vera - a character in the movie “Mr. Robot”. It’s like my voice and manner of speaking is like his. Interesting.

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#165

Due to the high level exposure the whole process is much more pronounced. I don’t get regressions (temporary setbacks, when old mental/behavioral patterns get temporarily reactivated), like I would in the past (before applying the sweet spot method), when I’m exposed to the scripting at this level of subliminal input.

On the other hand, I’m more susceptible to “traumatic-response” reconciliation. However, it’s only emotional and it doesn’t cause any changes in how I think or behave. I cope with it by letting it overflow me, and refocusing my mind. Those responses are really short-lived (around 5-10 seconds long).

How do I know they are “traumatic-responses”? I would get lots of them on a daily basis in the past, when I was a kid, teenager and young adult. Later on, I got rid of them, mainly due to working with subs. Those responses recur only when getting this kind of recon, hence I called it traumatic response reconciliation.

It seems to me that traumatic response reconciliation occurs when my subconscious mind shifts structures around my traumas and I’m exposed to the stimuli that would cause traumatic responses in my past.

I’m getting more and more attention from women and more and more of them show their interest blatantly. Yesterday, one woman said “I like you” right of the bat and tried to open up a longer conversation. Two days ago another woman smiled at me and said I was handsome. Recently, I don’t think there has been at least one day where I wouldn’t get a blatant sign of interest from women at least 3-5 times a day. I go out only to do the grocery shopping.

I’ve improved my self-care massively. I bought two products for hair care and I pay even more attention to what I eat. I’ve stopped using porn completely.

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