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Yes, they’re numerous and vivid. All of them revealing the most potent mechanics of ZP that can be grasped consciously, that is self-acknowledgement and self-alignment within subconscious structures/patterns targeted by the scripting.

However, what’s more important for practical reasons, those dreams reflect the very same mechanics that propel the whole alchemical process occurring in us on a daily basis where that self-acknowledgement and self-alignment affect our mental and behavioral patterns, at the same time facilitating relevant experiences and helping us open relevant paths of manifestation. All of that thanks to the very intense focus ZP offers (boosted by the battering ram approach tremendously).

In my case, it’s about acknowledging (self-acknowledgement) and aligning (self-alignment) with those “parts of my psyche” which are MY UNIQUE “EXPRESSION” (execution) OF WB… My psyche’s interpretation of WB’s scripting and its execution.

Yet, there is something beyond that self-acknowledgement and self-alignment. Something that can’t be grasped consciously but only felt. I feel it as shifts in something that I could call my body memory. I’m leaving it here since anything beyond that would be pure speculation.

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As expected, yesterday’s soul-deep recon, which was pretty intense, occurred to have made some shifts in my “body memory” as the typical sensations in my body and its certain reactions to certain stimuli changed. My body is feeling and responding in a really different way today. It’s hard to describe but I would say it’s lighter and more fluid in its movement yet at the same time more firm and energetic where that energy is way calmer than it used to be.

Another thing, which I find amusing, is that when I “get hit” by soul-deep recon which is intense I tend to poeticize it (as I did in the post above). That’s not the first time I did that. Amusing yet interesting…

I met my lover last night and talking to her helped me realize some of the changes that are occurring in me. I am truly becoming “the Snake in the Garden” in the domain of sex and seduction. The power of insights and the wisdom in that domain I’m displaying are incredible.

Another thing is, she admitted that she had fallen for me which didn’t surprised me at all. I said that she should enjoy the experience instead of trying to suppress it, even though she knows she’s going to get hurt since this is how each love ends. I told her that I’m not a boy to toy with her feelings and that I would respect if she decided to end the “relationship”. It looks like I’m still growing thanks to her… and thanks to WB, of course.

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Have you noticed anything in terms of physical shifting since starting this experiment?

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My wounds get healed way faster. That’s for sure. I haven’t noticed anything else. I’m taking care of my health and looks even more than before, I’ve started applying a different hair care routine and it should facilitate physical shifting.

It’s been three weeks since I started applying the battering ram approach. Let’s see how it goes in terms of physical shifting since it’s not an experiment any longer, it’s my approach and listening routine till they’ve released a different tech.

My current looks:

I look better but I had listened to LotS for two months prior to embarking on WB.

My looks 3 months ago:

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oh man,you really are a different person now…much more masculine …I could sense the inner depth and power… :kissing_heart:…happy to see your change….no wonder girls flock to you……

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Your face definitely looks more chiselled and more attractive now than before :muscle:

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The shifts occurring in me feel so natural that it gives me a deceptive impression that nothing is changing while I can see how differently I’m reacting/responding to circumstances and when I’m interacting with people.

I’m experiencing transient “regressions” yet again but this time they seem to be occurring on the deeper levels, meaning more essential subconscious structures/patterns are being shifted, oscillating between the “progression” and “regression”. However, the oscillation is narrower than it used to be on the more superficial levels when I would run my subs in accordance with the recommended listening pattern (or close to it).

I’ve been feeling my subconscious craving for more subliminal input for the last couple of days. I cannot describe it in any other way but it’s as if it had got more… voracious.

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I feel you man….I‘ve been feeling the same in the past few days …I just feel like “I can handle more …just listen two more loops….”I mean god knows that I listen way more than the recommendation…way more than that…… :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Yes, definitely I’ve been experiencing somatic shifts (not physical shifting) lately. It occurs as bodily sensations caused by certain stimuli or mental patterns. Those bodily sensations manifest as tension in certain parts of my body (usually my stomach) and as its release.

Moreover, I can see shifts in how my body responds to certain situations, feelings and thoughts. Very old and deeply ingrained ways of somatic responses are being “rewired”.

The hugest shift I see is how comfortable I’ve become with touching and being touched. It used to be one of my major struggles for pretty much my whole life. I suffered from some kind of anxiety related to getting in physical contact with people. Now it’s like breathing.

When it comes to “pure” WB results I’m becoming more and more the one who seduces reality, meaning my social charm is skyrocketing.

I’ve also become less defensive and more “aggressive” (in a cool manner) when being tested by people. That’s a huge shift as well.

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I’m getting lots of insights into my psyche. One of them is that my emotions and feelings are more like slides I can project onto the outside world rather than actual “inner entities”.
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That alone makes me really proficient at monitoring and moderating my inner world. WB seems to be only amplifying that “capability”.

Another thing is, I realized that I was the boy who would never cry, despite all the abuse I experienced. I kept all the pain in my “slide box”. The only emotions I’m prone to, yet in quite a limited way, are anger and fear, which are the most primal emotions.

I’m becoming freer and freer when it comes to how I “operate” when interacting with people. I’m becoming more and more socially seductive.

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how many loops you are currently doing?

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I stick with running WB for two hours a day. When falling asleep and into the sleep.

There’s a difference between running 4 and 8 loops, but it’s not proportional, meaning I’m not getting twice as much results or twice more profound.

This is why I believe there’s a limit to our processing and executing capabilities. There’s a sweet spot in the battering ram approach.

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Do you listen to all the subs by the hour? Why do you need so many cycles if it’s useless?

Again, mate. Don’t follow us as we’re still testing out this approach, meaning, there are more things that need to get uncovered and that takes time. On top of that, the recommended listening pattern works very well for a vast number of people, some of them report excellent results when running micro loops.

Another thing is, there are factors which are equally or even more important for your results and growth than the amount of subliminal input. The way you work with your subs is the most vital factor.

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Okay, I repeated several cycles, it enhances the effect but not much)

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WB is tackling everything that is standing on its way to the higher levels of its execution, for example:

  • It’s made me really comfortable with communicating with people by touch, and thanks to that I’m way more socially influential.
  • It made me realize that I would always be in a responsive mode, where I would always be attuned to people around me, reacting/responding in a way that would make me cater to other people’s psychological needs whilst I’m destined (capable of) to set my own rhythm people attune to. That realization and getting attuned to my own rhythm in social context even more helped me execute that part of WB that makes you nonchalant and the “life of the party”.

The pattern I’ve been observing since I started applying the battering ram approach is like below:

The only things that seem to be permanent for the whole process are the constant oscillation between “progression” and “regression” from the baseline and soul-deep, personal and personalized recon from time to time, when the interaction between your mind and the sub (the “reprogramming”/the shifting) encounters stubborn/resistant subconscious structures/patterns. Yet, the baseline is increasing gradually and firmly.

I’m seeing some other patterns, yet I need more time to fathom their nature.

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The depth and intensity of the results are NOT proportional to the amount of subliminal input, meaning twice as much of listening time DOESN’T yield twice as profound or pronounced results.

There was a misstep in applying the battering ram approach which was going for the higher number of loops too fast. It should have been done slowly and gradually in order to find my sweet spot, where adding more loops doesn’t yield any significant improvement when it comes to the depth and intensity of the results.

There’s also one more pattern where it looks like the mind gets accommodated to the amount of subliminal input pretty quickly that allows it to handle the input with ease. However, it doesn’t translate to any significant improvement in the results. At least not immediately.

I’m not going to post my observations or insights on the battering ram approach any longer as I understand and respect Subliminal Club’s precaution expressed by @SaintSovereign on the other thread.

However, to sum up the whole experience, I can tell that listening to WB 8 times more than the official recommendations say didn’t yield 8 times more intense or profound results. Although I saw a significant improvement in the results, I didn’t increase the amount of exposure gradually in order to find my sweet spot (which could have been the recommended listening pattern - running WB two loops every other day or not much more than that) and that alone invalidates my methodology (yet not the battering ram approach in itself) and misleads other people who may assume that running higher amounts of loops right of the bat is the way to go. No, it’s not.

The most vital thing is how we work with the sub and working with it in accordance with the recommended listening pattern yields excellent results as all of us know.

My apologies to @WorldOvertaker @Sebastian_Po @HyperMan and everyone who got “inspired” by my approach.


From now on I’ll be posting my results on WB that are related to the scripting alone and not my observations or insights on how the tech affects me when using the battering ram approach.

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I stick to the battering approach. However, mind that I’m an advanced subliminal user and I don’t recommend that approach to anyone, let alone to people who are not proficient at self-introspection, monitoring and moderating their thoughts, feelings and behaviour. Like Fire said since it applies to my approach:

I’m looking for my sweet spot where more exposure wouldn’t yield more pronounced or more profound results. I may decrease or increase the exposure time accordingly down the road, yet I won’t be posting about that as my sweet spot is mine alone, everyone has their own, therefore, apart from imperiling someone’s progress that information is just irrelevant.


WB is doing the best job for me when it comes to self-love, self-assurance and self-care. That helps me unfold my inborn beauty (physical and “spiritual”) and charm. I’m like a star that shines all the more every single day. I can see it in the mirror, in the way I move and talk, in the way people respond to me. It’s like becoming more ethereal. Like a magnificent piece of art amidst the grossness of the world. However, there’s no disdain for other people in me or any pride but just a cool acceptance of my real beauty. It looks as if my beauty was the pure emanation of my mind.

Emanation… I can see how all the inner changes are emanating into the world around me, slowly reshaping my reality.

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I’ll be making adjustments to my listening pattern within the battering ram approach down the road yet I won’t be posting about that because I find it irrelevant since everyone is different and every sub is different. On top of that, I don’t want to imperil anyone’s journey.

I’ve changed the definition of my sweet spot. It’s about getting into and maintaining “subliminal flow”. I cannot describe it any better but as a state where you’re powerfully focused on what the scripting is making you focused on and being driven by it as if you were on autopilot (at least this is how I’m experiencing it right now). It’s about finding an “optimal subliminal flow”.

All I’m doing right now is totally effortless as it’s the pure emanation of my inner state. I’m manifesting WB’s objectives more effectively and profoundly. My voice has changed so has my manner of speaking and interacting with people. It’s definitely more like WB’s spirit.

The oscillation between the “regression” and “progression” has got minimized as well. I haven’t got any significant recon for a couple of days now, apart from feeling a bit down upon “pondering on life” last evening.

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My subliminal flow (the focus and drive I’ve got thanks to the subliminal input) is so high that the emanation (taking action and manifesting through aligning with the scripting organically just by following my intuition) is so intense that I don’t need any conscious guidance or premeditation to do or manifest what the scripting is aimed at. All of that is happening just by “going with the subliminal flow”. I suppose it’s strongly related to the mechanics of WB where the main focus is a boost of your masculine and seductive qualities, and their unhindered emanation.

Last night, I made some adjustments to the amount of my subliminal input and I’m closer to my “optimal subliminal flow”. I’m going to observe how it works for me for some time and then decide upon any further adjustments. For now, it’s working great for me.

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