Important Update
thank you to everyone for your suggestions so far.
im making this post because i have the next 3 days off starting tomorrow and i want to start tomorrow so im hoping i can make a final decision soon.
so far im pretty much 100% sure libertine will help so im for sure getting that.
and im 95% sure prime seduction will help but im not sure which version is best but im leaning towards ultima.
in this post i want to give you guys a detailed explanation of what im already doing to accomplish my goal which im hoping will help you guys make some final suggestions before i start.
ok here it is.
Where In Your City Can You Meet Attractive Women?
right now in my city attractive women can be met in shopping malls, grocery stores and the street.
Bars and restaurants are open outdoor area only but you have to remain seated and can only interact with the people you arrived with at your table.
shopping malls have the most and hottest women but i find those places almost impossible to approach in.
To approach a women in a shopping mall you will pretty much have to do it in a situation where other people can hear and see you. this reality increases my anxiety significantly and i have not been able to ever do a shopping mall approach.
Where Are You Able To Approach Women Right Now?
in the past few months i have done all my approaches on the street.
I go to the busiest street where all the bars and restaurants are and approach women there.
I usually do my approaches on Friday and Saturday between 8 and 11 pm. I have also done street approaches at like 1pm-4pm but since im looking for sex i stopped that because i think most people at that time have things to do so its unlikely a girl will be down to hookup at that time.
What Do You Say And Do When You Approach Women?
first, i approach only groups of 3 or less as my thinking is bigger groups are less likely to be out to meet guys and are part of a party or event.
so i walk around on the street where all the bars and restaurants are and approach groups of 3 or less.
I always use an indirect statement to start the interaction like "do you guys know the best bar open tonight? or something like that.
I use indirect statements because my anxiety is too high when i try to start the interaction by immediately showing direct sexual interest.
so i ask something indirect and then i observe how the girls react to me.
I can usually tell within 5 sec if any of the girls in the group is attracted to me.
i have tracked this seriously and i would say on average at least 1 in 5 approaches i do i will get at least one girl in the group that is obviously attracted to me.
Why Are You Not Currently Having Sex With The 1 in 5 Girls Who Like You Instantly When You Approach?
i have been asking myself this question a lot.
i would say what happens is the girl makes it obvious by her body language and demeanor that she is attracted to me and then i struggle to go from the indirect approach to showing sexual interest.
its weird to go from “hey where is a good bar i can go to tonight?” to showing sexual interest in one of the girls in the group.
so i think im not sleeping with those girls because i experience a lot of anxiety when trying to switch from the indirect/meutral conversation to showing sexual interest even when its obvious the girl likes me.
I have had a few girls who do it for me and they will btatantly make their interest known by telling me we should hang out and asking for my number but that is rare and usually only older/age 30+/milfs do this
i even had an older woman who i approached indirectly like this she actually ended up giving me a handjob in a hidden corner on the street, and that was an interaction i started by asking her if there was any gym open in the area. and that was at like 8 pm on a Sunday night.
but again this woman was older and she was not even attractive. i approached her by mistake because she looked better from afar. had i seen her clearly before i would not have talked to her. i just mention this interaction because getting a handjob on the street even from a woman i was not attracted to shows that its possible to go from an indirect start to a very sexual end.
What Are You Hoping To Get From Using Subliminals?
first, im hoping subliminals will allow me to feel more comfortable approaching with sexual interest on the street, i think if i can start all my interactions on the street with sexual interest then that should make it way easier to have sex with the 1 in 5 women who usually like me instantly based on just my looks.
secondly, im hoping subliminals will help me be able to approach in the mall., the malls have by far the most and hottest women in my city. there are amazingly hot women in some malls in my city and i would do all my approaching in the mall if i could. but again like i said earlier when approaching in the mall you pretty much 100% are approaching with several people nearby seeing and hearing you the entire time so right now that massively increases my anxiety and makes it impossible. im hoping subliminals will help me be able to start approaching in the malls.
thirdly and most importantly, im hoping subliminals will take the 1 in 5 women on the street who are usually attracted to me and make that attraction more sexual/horny/lustful.
right now usually those 1 in 5 its obvious they are attracted but im hoping to make that attraction more sexual. it seems right now they they think “this guy is hot/good looking”. im hoping to make it more “this guy is making me really wet” im hoping to make the attraction horniness/lust. i believe this would make it way easier for me to then show sexual interest back and escalate to sex right away.
and i know its possible for that attraction to be super horny and lustful because i have experienced it al ready. i remember i approached this group of 3 attractive older/28+/milfs by asking for direction and instantly one of the girls was just obviously super horny for me. her entire voice tone, body language was like she was in a trance by my presence. she blatantly asked for my number and said we should hangout and then implied she wanted to walk me home.
so i know its a possibility but this was rare and again an older woman. so im hoping to increase the ratio of women especially younger women who are not just attracted to me but horny for me. this is my #1 hope with subliminals.
lastly, im hoping to increase the ratio of women who like me instantly. 1 in 5 is already great so my main hope is the things above but of course taking that 1 in 5 to maybe 1 in 3 would be great.
but again not really needed.
i would say the most important thing i need to sleep with tons of women is take the 1 in 5 who like me on the street when i approach indirect and get them to be more sexual/horny/lustful in their attraction.
just that alone would allow me to sleep with a ton of women very quickly just by approaching on the street like i already am.
the super hotties at the mall and improving my ration from 1 in 5 to 1 in 3 on the street is more dream/ideal.
but to get laid like crazy they are not needed. all i need for that is take the 1 in 5 who already like me when i approach on the street and get that attraction to be more sexual/horny/filled with lust.
How Exactly Are You Planning To Use Subliminals?
i work from Sunday to Wednesday and have Thursday to Saturday off.
My plan is this right now:
Sunday to Wednesday = listen to the programs for 2-3 hours each of these 4 days
Thursday to Saturday = listen to the program for 6-8 hours and then spend 6-8 hours on the street and/or mall doing approaches and hopefully getting laid.
Conclusion
You guys now have a clear idea of what im already doing.
given this new info is my idea of using libertine ultima and primal ultima the wisest plan?
any other recommendations or advice is greatly appreciated.
TheRationalOptimist: