Guess that’s why we need the Revelation.
It may be a bit redundant in some aspects and if you feel so go for GLM instead of Ascension. You definitely need to develop masculine traits.
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okay I’ll think about it for a moment then.
My priority is (and was also in the stack with PS, before these issues came out) to increase the value I perceive of myself and stop feeling like I’m not enough. Precisely for this reason I had chosen PS, thinking that it would help me but it only caused great recon for the enormous divergence that still exists between me and the sub, due to a lack of foundations in myself.
Then I’d say that Ascension a d Genesis or Ascension and DR would do wonders. Do a year on whichever you choose. Seriously.
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I was thinking about Ascension to build my inner worth, self-esteem and to serve as a foundation building for me.
Then I would have liked to put LB4H, but I think I will keep Genesis which although not focused exclusively on self-love, has a single objective on self-love (“Develop a deep sense of love for your inner self.”). I also need the goal seeking and achievement goals in it, as well as the wealth scripts, and much more (it’s a very all-round sub).
Lastly, I was also thinking of keeping DRLD as a support to the two other titles and also for the other objectives it contains on the removal of limitations.
In conclusion my stack would be Asc + G + DRLD, and with this I should develop my self-esteem, the personal value I attribute to myself, improve my relationship with myself and my self-love, and develop a sense of identity.
If anyone has any other advice to give or criticisms to make about the stack I chose, I’m more than willing to listen.
And in conclusion, I thank everyone for the support and help you have provided me in this thread.
I expect big changes in the future.
A number of people have been telling you similar things as below for over a year. Here are some highlights from today.
The reason I’m repeating this in the above quotes is because I really want it to get through to you:
As tempting as women might be right now, I think you know what might be better.
As much as this might be reconciliation, a few of us have been encouraging you to shift your focus away from women and towards other programs.
Also what happens if in a week you feel better? Will you go back to PS thinking everything is better? Or will you stay the course of focusing on personal development? Or will you justify listening to PS as part of personal development?
How about starting out with MICROLOOPS with ONE of the following:
Ascension
DR:LD
Genesis
Sanguine The Elixir
LBfH
How about doing ONE program (and only one program) for 90 day, then maybe think about adding another?
Maybe after SIX months, consider something such as Dragon Reborn or CFW or Khan or Khan Black?
On the other hand, as @IRON has humorously pointed out in a visual way, do not overdo it.
The other thought I have is if other people might take advantage of you. Have you read a book on assertiveness such as “When I say no I feel Guilty” by Dr. Manuel Smith?
Have you read any books about emotionally immature people by Dr. Lindsay Gibson to learn how such people try to manipulate those around them?
At some point you will get better in your interactions with women, and I don’t want any bad apples to take advantage of you.
While you are listening to a title more about healing or self-development, you can read up on relationships skills, assertiveness, sexual techniques, and so forth, so when you have more of a stronger self-esteem, you’ll have the skills to follow through and follow up.
And as you prepare for meeting more women:
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@FoxDie I was thinking about it more and I recommend the stack of Genesis and A Love Bomb for Humanity
Why?
Learn to love yourself and figure out what you want. That would probably put you in a better position than most folks
Maybe a third title with Ascension. Be a super happy and super fun stud
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@RVconsultant , you’ve compiled some valuable insights and advice for FoxDie. It’s clear that many members here genuinely want to see him succeed in his personal development journey.
@FoxDie , it’s clear that many people are emphasizing the importance of building a strong foundation through self-development before diving into seduction programs.
As RVconsultant and others have pointed out, the path to self-improvement often involves working on areas such as self-esteem, assertiveness, and identity. This is where programs like Dragon Reborn, Limit Destroyer, Ascension, and Genesis come into play. They can help you lay the groundwork for a confident and fulfilled life.
It’s crucial to remember that subliminals can stir up emotions and self-reflection, which may bring doubts and fears to the surface. This is entirely normal and part of the process. Embrace these moments as opportunities for growth.
Regarding women, it’s wise to consider stepping back from a focus on seduction for now. Concentrate on your personal development journey, and you’ll likely find that your interactions with women naturally improve as you become more self-assured.
Take your time with subliminals, and after several months, evaluate your progress. You can then decide whether it’s appropriate to introduce another subliminal into your routine.
In the meantime, educating yourself on relationship skills, assertiveness, and emotional intelligence is a valuable pursuit. These skills will serve you well as you continue on your journey of self-improvement.
Also know that the dating world can be complex, and people often have their reasons for ghosting. It’s not always a reflection of your worth. Focus on becoming the best version of yourself, and the right connections will follow.
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I find the less inner conflict I have, and the more inner peace, the more women tend to blush, giggle, and stammer around me.
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The whole world changes from the inside out.
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First of all, thank you for the detailed post and the help you are providing me.
Secondly, I want to reassure you about the fact that someone can take advantage of me. From that point of view I’m not so naive. Maybe when I said lack of assertiveness I was misunderstood. What I meant was the inner strength to go and get the things I want. Paradoxically, despite the things I wrote in previous posts, I am not completely lacking in social skills, my real problem is feeling constant fear, which probably comes from a lack of self-esteem, otherwise my social and emotional intelligence is decently structured.
As far as sub are concerned, however, I would say that I have come to terms with it and that the best thing for me now and at least until the end of this year, is to build a solid internal foundation, strong self-esteem and my personal power (as we have discussed so far with other users and as you advised) , and forget about seduction titles.
Personally, I have no problem starting with a stack of three, as long as it helps me build the foundation I need. In fact, I agree with previous posts that say my strong recon with seduction titles is due to a lack of foundation. I’ve thought a lot about this statement and I think it fully reflects me. This is why I believe first of all that I don’t need a healing sub, because what I feel is not the need to resolve traumas (pull out weeds), I’ve done that in the past with subs like Regeneration, DR, Rebirth, and I’ve overcome so many things that I want to cry out of gratitude for having overcome it. But now what I really need is to build solid foundations on the already existing ground.
So yes, the first list of subs (Asc, Genesis, etc…) I think is great. I can also try micro loops (you mean 30 seconds and up, I guess), but I think I could already start with a stack of 3. After all, I’m not new here and doing three subs together wouldn’t be heavy.
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@FoxDie - this was an excellent discussion and in case you got all the answers you wanted, do make a request to RVconsultant to close this thread. Unless you want the conversation to continue of course.
All the best, bro!
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Thanks friend.
For me there is no problem with keeping it open, I’m happy to hear other people’s opinions and discuss it together.
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I’m weighing in a little late deliberately; trying to stick away from being the advice giver for a bit.
I read through what others had said already to see how it compared to my own perspective and I have to say I seem to be on point with what others have said as well. That’s a good thing, if you’re getting consistency in the answers here it at least suggests a consensus, even if a consensus isn’t necessarily objective advice.
My take on it is that you only gain a balanced outlook on women (or “sexual partners” to be more generic for the other persuasions) after you master other aspects of your life.
I’m going to take a leaf out of my own personal, extremely limited experience to try to illustrate what I mean in respect to your situation, as well as looking at how your worded your original post.
You correctly pointed out that on a fundamental level, your problem/question related not just to women, but to your self esteem and identity. You also wondered whether the path of seduction was “the wrong one”.
I would suggest that most of the time, you are correct it is the wrong one, and often the desire to (punta punta) multiple beautiful women is a self esteem issue in and of itself (or a predisposition to pleasure in other circumstances). It is often done in order to seek validation or to compensate for experiencing feelings of lack of self worth.
For the first 26 years of my life I was a virgin, and not wholly out of choice. I don’t count online fooling around with desperate forty or fifty somethings as a twenty something year old on early video chat here 
then, when I took the initiative for myself 20 years ago on a trip to the States, meeting several women I knew online, I broke that streak for all of a couple of weeks. Then, for several years, I returned to my motherland and it wasn’t until I met and interacted with my first long term relationship three years later (who saw enough in me to fly halfway around the world to meet me) that the dam broke and I was able to spent eight years with consistent access to the VVV, until circumstances changed things for me in late 2014 and I spent five years without a woman in my life, until I was ready for number two. And that lasted for a year or so.
Why did it take me that long to enjoy a long term relationship? Well, back in high school I would watch what others did or experienced, and analyze it like you might analyze a science experiment. And I saw all the idiocy and craziness people experienced around social relationships. All the ridiculous manipulation and social games. The temporary nature of it.
I examined the PUA and seduction community years later, and learned a lot from it, but to be brutally honest PUA stuff and seduction materials have never helped me land a woman. That’s not to say they can’t, but ultimately every experience is different.
Lets just put it this way: who you are a person, and your confidence which comes from the experience of every day slogging it trying to survive from day to day, that is what is going to attract you to a woman. In the game of survival, the seduction community is only about pointing you in the right direction to be able to stand up for yourself in a playful way to pass the tests women throw at you, by explaining how to defuse tension. What is going to give you the advantage is having that rock solid confidence in what your personal value to others is. Knowing that you have value to the world, something to offer it, even if you haven’t made that offer yet but are just preparing to provide it. And know right now, that everyone has some value that they provide to the world, even though the average schmuck might look at the value you provide and think it non valuable.
You wrote: "The enormous obstacles I have are to the perception I have of my personal value, which I am convinced is non-existent. "
With that perspective, you will never pull a woman (hey, maybe a man, if you swing that way). Why? Because you have no understanding of your self worth!!
You’ve come to this forum and to these subliminals because obviously you have the willpower to make a change. That indicates one thing about you which you can use to point out to yourself your own self worth. The willpower to dig yourself out of a trench is in itself valuable to others. Especially in the current time that we live in, where we are in the midst of what might be called a “great depression”. Focus on the fact that you’ve made that first step. Focus on the fact that you are more than those people who haven’t even bothered to try to figure out what makes them valuable to others. As you learn more about your value, you will naturally have more confidence, not just around women but around your peers, and that will naturally lead to attracting others who have perception of that that same value.
Given what I know about this forum’s available subliminals, even though I’ve never used it, I would recommend Genesis to you, which I understand you’ve already started. That will give you the understanding of your true goals / path which will help improve your confidence as you work with it.
Good luck brother.
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Thank you so much for the encouragement and for sharing your ideas, they are inspiring.
Try running GLM + LBFH.
I did one cycle which solves a lot of the same problems you have.
Than i ran PS and lost my virginity, now i have a gf.
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I hope you find it again. I hate to lose things.
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Interesting, thought about running GLM a year ago, but never gave it a try except for 2 cycles in a stark custom.
Was good though 
Time to read GLM commander sales page 
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I don’t know about LB4H, but I will consider GLM, grazie.
Compared to Ascension for example, how assertive or confident can GLM be considered?
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On ascension i was more aggressively confortational and on GLM i was confidently calm.
I was more assertive on both, lbfh also help with assertiveness.
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