How to stop entering the FRIEND-ZONE

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#125

All of what you said is true and I wish like hell I knew this back in my late teens and early twenties. Running LB currently but probably adding in Khan Love & War. I couldn’t give a flying fuck about chasing women but I crave the internal frame and strength as well as the total self reliance.

I sort of realized last night that I ask a lot of questions here that I probably know the answer to but want someone to reassure me. That’s not good.

I believe every man should be entirely focused on becoming a high status/value man before anything else

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#127

I think that this is the hack.

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the magic combination

relaxation IN connection

Need both.

Comes down to an openness to interaction, I think.

Anyway, you give good advice. Thank you.

:pray:t6:

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#129

To put it simple, for those too lazy to go through all that elaborate:

  1. get cool->Sanguine+Ascension
  2. heal your traumas->DR
  3. develop self-love and self-respect->LB+Emperor
  4. strengthen your masculine traits->Emperor
  5. get on your path->Emperor
  6. attract women on the next level->Primal Seduction

Naturally, we shouldn’t forget about that guy who was unemployed, didn’t even take a shower on a daily basis, had little to no congruence, yet had sex with women left-right running Wanted. Does anyone still remember him?

Women are women, and what was described above is a typical mainstream approach. Develop yourself as a man, bla bla… who doesn’t know that total scumbags with absolute no integrity get laid with beautiful women? Is there anyone who doesn’t?

Number one is choosing the right target, which is 90% of success, and remembering that you can’t seduce everyone. We need to value our time and resources.

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#131

Precisely. All you wrote above is based on the assumption that beautiful and quality women crave for masculine men only which is far from reality. Women crave for a man who will align with their psychological makeup and will play to their fantasies, pulling them out of the mundane. For some it’s a Rambo, for some a Peter Pan. Matching is essential.

Developing as a masculine man and counting that it will do the job is selfish and not practical if women’s individual psychology and desires come as secondary.

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#137

I think it was my second or third book I read on the subject

#139

Bro ngl. You should look into being an author. You can even be anonymous. But please do it. I see your posts like how excited I get to read a Paul graham essay for me lmao.

#140

The dude who’s a “scumbag” or toxic or whatever who bagged all the chicks in high school or college or whatever just probably was congruent to who he is and got girls that loved the fun of what he provided

Its why the broke club promoter bags all the hot girls cause of fun

Point is if you really wanted to and obsessed over just getting laid and not truly be happy you can go down the route of drugs to hack the process

Yeah you can lose to the broke club promoter who does drugs because he perfects the external despite how healthy, “successful” you are.

But once you do it over the long term your internal frameworks can just effortlessly provide the external.

I never drank alcohol ever in my life and when I go out I can argue I can put out the same or even better energy or vibe as a guy who’s on drugs

The reason that dude gets the chicks is cause he’s authentic, maybe the drugs or alcohol causes him to be super fun, maybe he’s got good qualities.

It sucked ass my first year going out lmao but over time it got better and now I can easily let loose and turn off that logical mode. Success is a byproduct

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#142

I don’t think that qualifies as hugging it out

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#143

I honestly didn’t even know that you were Voytek. Lmao.

Alright, I apologize to you if you felt insulted, and I apologize for the last time as well. I deleted my post.

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#144

Now it’s time to hug it out

#145

After they got run through by the bad boys or the scumbags, those same girls now want “to settle down” with a good boy, one of those she put in the friendzone! :joy:
And some dudes go for that deal. :man_facepalming:
They can put you in the friendzone but you must never stay in there. Only suckers stay in the friendzone, hoping for a chance.

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#146

rocky hug

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#147

@ksub Is speaking from experience

#148

Speaking from other people’s experience! Not my own. I have never been stupid enough to stay in the friendzone! I don’t even think I ever got friendzoned!
Here is what most guys don’t see: the friendzone is basically a situation where you treat a woman like a girlfriend without her actually being your girlfriend. She still gets the attention, sometimes going out with you, you might still spend money on her… buuuuutttttttt… you get nothing in exchange. Nothing but a “friendship”? While another dude is probably blowing her back out like there’s no tomorrow!!! :joy:
I never went for that. I know guys who did though.

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#149

I accept your apology.

We’re cool. No.hugging needed. lol

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#150

Her: “Where are all the good guys?”

Me: “Check your rear view mirror. You probably left them behind miles ago in the friendzone.”

[probably a quote from a movie, but I can’t remember]

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#152

Precisely, I don’t question that sexual attraction is triggered mostly by masculine men but I destroy the assumption that it’s essential to be successful with women since Peter Pan fucks beautiful and quality women too.

The most essential distinction here is the one between sexual attraction and seduction. Sexual attraction is biological whilst seduction is artificial to some point (since it’s an art, yet based on our natural predisposition to mate).

PUA is all about seduction yet where it fails the most is not taking into account women’s unique psychological makeup and desires, but teaching men to follow “proven” routines mindlessly as if women were automatons whose “usage” requires following a set of instructions.

Seduction is not a set of routines but leading women astray, far from the mundane and into their fantasies by the promise of their fulfilment, and that implies building up their desire gradually to the point where it transforms into the lust for the one who is “making the promise”. The key to seduction is recognising their psychology and fantasies and making the “promise”, luring them further into the “snares” of our seduction by making them believe it, and experience it as a journey to a culmination point (the sex, of course). Choosing the right woman is essential for both parties, however. You can’t seduce everyone. Choosing a woman susceptible to your charm is vital.

On the other hand, sexual attraction makes no distinction of this sort, it’s barely conscious in its execution. There’s no choice. You either feel it or not. Seduction is a choice, always. Women want to be seduced, so do we.

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#154

I’m not going to admonish you since everyone is on their own path and has their own steps to take. The only thing beyond what I said I’m going to add is; learn the art of seduction or suffer the consequences. Of course, I don’t mean PUA which is obnoxious and a waste of time.

Good luck, Luther.

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#155

how to stop entering friend zone :

Step 1 : run easy to run alpha title

Step 2 : add in seduction title

Step 3 : chill the fuck out

Step 4 : Journal and remember to not allow the recon tell you that you are not getting any results ( at this point you are already probably sleeping with 6 women at once )

Step 5 : continue running your stack

Step 6 : Too much sex???

Step 7 : realize that casual hookups are no longer fulfilling

Step 8 : become spiritual

Step 9 : get nerdy about it

Step 10 : grow a long white beard and start speaking in riddles like a wise spiritual magic man that you are

Step 11 : wait… what just happened?

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#156

lol how much sex is too much sex.

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