How to stop entering the FRIEND-ZONE

Subwise, I don’t know about your past, I would recommend to look at KB.
Stage 1 heals sexual related traumas. For me it was pornaddiction.
Stage 3 skyrockets your sexual energy and thereby your Charisma and attraction. It also boosts all kind of other subs. Like auras in PN

(@Lion PN still has the aura like old Libertine, hasn’t it?)

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PN does generate an aura of lust.

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I was about to say…

Khan + KB for the ultimate makeover? sounds about right. I can see HS + KB / Khan going well too.

But now I wonder, if heartsong or Love Bomb will be the better move for this. Great topic btw :slight_smile:

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What he said

KB is what I thought WB would be like lmao that sub ain’t no joke

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what did you think it was?

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Chicks hitting on you left and right

Deer in headlights look everytime

Effortless sexual energy and charisma

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I might have to retract my recommendation to run both Khan ST1 and Heartsong.

Heartsong could be used to achieve multiple partners but it is more geared towards romantic love rather than casual dating.

Seeing that you are attempting to get your core right in terms of sexual attractiveness and sexual value, I think Khan ST1 is the better healing subliminal.

Of course if you are inspired to run Heartsong, I won’t disagree. It’s just that I was thinking about your situation for a day or two and thought I would put in my revised thoughts on the matter.

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khan + Wanted Black / Khan black perhaps?

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If that’s what you would like to do. If it isn’t the correct stack for you, ZP will lead you to the right one.

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What do you mean by that?

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The Zero Point is you. You are the Zero Point. The point of origin.

That’s the special thing about ZP subliminals. You can’t hide from them. They reveal to you your authentic self and encourage you to move towards subliminals that are aligned with who you are.

Which is why sometimes stacks change (apart from reconciliation). This takes lot of trial and error sometimes. But some deep self reflection can help decide your stack too.

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I think that although you’re labeling this topic ‘How to stop entering the FRIEND-ZONE’, you are actually asking about 3 or 4 things at the same time.

For example:

Comfort talking openly about sexuality
Assertiveness in general
Learning to prioritize your own values, desires, and so on
Social interaction and boundary setting
Empathy and learning more about other people, what they want and what they are dealing with

Everybody has opinions, and I am included.

[OPINIONS FOLLOW]:

Stop thinking of sex as a reward for good behavior. It’s demeaning to you.

You can give the gift of enjoyable connection, stimulation, and pleasure to someone.

And you can give them the gift of being able to please you.

This is not confidence. It’s just a fact. If someone gives you something and you like it, they feel good. Don’t make it too deep.

There’s a lot of cultural and social baggage around sex. People including you and whatever woman you get with have to get past that baggage in order to interact sexually.

A couple of targets:
Getting more comfortable with people
Getting more comfortable with your own sexuality (Being aware of it, communicating about it, expressing it)
Recognizing the blocks that another person may have and getting better at making them more comfortable

None of this stuff is a contest. Being worse at it doesn’t mean you’re garbage. Being good at it doesn’t mean you’re superior.

They’re just things to learn to make your life more beautiful. Like learning to plant a damn apple tree.

Try not to put too much onto it. (I know that is difficult.)

You are not perfect.
I am not perfect.

Every woman you end up f**king is also not going to be perfect.

But despite our imperfections, we are quite capable of having a good time together sometimes.

Good luck.

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@Malkuth right on target with that truth bomb.

launch

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Thanks for your contribution!

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Beautiful point of view. Thank you for this post

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My bro

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As someone who got friendzoned a lot in my younger years, my advice would be to simply move more quickly, make your intentions known as early as possible, before becoming their friend.

The window for anything romantic has an expiry date and the longer you know a woman without making your move, the lower your chances get.

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I don’t want you to experience the pains of loneliness, and the emotional discomfort of sexual deprivation.

Yes and no. Value or excitement, yes. But what is value or excitement to her? For some women it’s money. Others it’s popularity. Others it’s a big cock. Others it’s connection. Others it’s how she feels around you. Etc.

What’s valuable to you? Besides her looks? What can she bring to you that would be valuable to you?

And this. This is the idea of women may have tendencies of being oriented towards “resource extraction”.

One of your resources is time and attention. Unfortunately there are some women out there who would use men for attention as much as they can and have no remorse doing so because (in their minds) you’re choosing to give them attention and they are just innocent, passive bystanders.

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YES!

I’ll say it again, Ascension. I keep thinking you’re attempting to build a skyscraper without a foundation. PN, PS, WANTED, WB, SSX - those are the skyscrapers.

Ascension is the foundation. What about GLM? Or maybe GLM: The Commander?

How about your social skills? Daredevil just got updated. What about True Social? Maybe Primal?

Yes, dude, changing your mind set might very well help. And notice @Leandros insightfully said

LATER. Not now.

As possibly a wise first step. THEN -

Note: AFTER THAT.

Again, this might very well be helpful for you.

And please read @Malkuth 's post 3 or 4 times.

Also what about Love Bomb?

I’m emphasizing that voice in your head that is re-directing your focus. Stop thinking about dates, or a girlfriend, or sex, and rather start thinking about changing who you are and your skills sets.

What if you stop thinking in terms of pickup, game, and polarizing, and starting thinking about other skills?

@Malkuth any book recommendations about those above skills?

@FoxDie what about the book “When I Say No I Feel Guilty” by Manuel Smith?

What about books on self-esteem by Nathaniel Branden? (@Leandros any title recommendation?)

One more thing, how can you figure out within 5 minutes if a woman is just wanting your attention for her ego boost, or if she’s truly interested? Now that’s a skill that can save you tons of time and agony.

There is a book/media set from David Shade called “Select Women Wisely”. PLEASE look for it!

Now one more thing. And if you decide to use this, please note I’m saying this assuming you are going to be using a subliminal we’ve been pointing you to consider IN ADDITION to this: pheromones.

PheromoneXS has some products that might help you: XiSt, Ascension, Glow, Api, Taboo, and maybe Pencil Thin Mustache. I would NOT encourage you to get Alpha ImpaXS or Pimp.

At Liquid Alchemy Labs, you might want to look at Voodoo, Bad Wolf, Nude Alpha Gel, and perhaps Wolf.

You can read more about some of those specific pheromone products at House of Pheromones, including how many drops/sprays to use.

The idea is that while you are changing you and your skill sets, perhaps pheromones could give you a helping hand by getting better reactions, especially sustained attention from women so you can talk longer with them and get more experience talking with them. But don’t expect pheromones to get you more sex or dates. They are not a quick fix, or even a slow fix. They are just one more thing that could help you.

@unusualfellow @Prioritas Any thoughts?

So to summarize:

Ascension
GLM
Daredevil
True Social
Primal
Heartsong
Love Bomb
maybe GLM: The Commander
maybe Khan ST1: Total Breakdown

pheromones

“Select Women Wisely” by David Shade
“When I Say No I Feel Guilty” by Manuel Smith
books on self-esteem by Nathaniel Branden

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What a lengthy and fantastic answer

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