try this:
30s every 4-5 days
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It could be that (SC) subliminals speak to your subconscious on a very deep level. When things ā in your case, subliminals ā āget under your skinā, they can absolutely affect your sleep.
For example: You hear that your best friend, whom you deeply value, has been badly betrayed. Youāll likely suffer with him because it really hits you emotionally.
But if the same thing happens to a distant acquaintance ā someone you might see once every two years ā it doesnāt affect you as much. It might even leave you completely indifferent.
Depending on what your subconscious associates with, some things hit harder than others. Personally, I think the subliminals resonate with you very well because they reach parts and aspects of your subconscious that other healing methods or other subs havenāt even come close to.
Yes, it sounds kind of rough because youāre sleeping poorly, but I believe theyāll bring you a lot in the long run.
Healing takes time.
Healing is often also pain.
And healing is often really shitty sleep, too.
I feel that way sometimes as well, especially when I use certain healing methods ā subliminals, shadow work, etc. Even though it often annoys me, I keep reminding myself that everything has its reason and purpose ā even the unpleasant stuff.
Just a thought I had when I read your post.
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So to summarize:
- You get bad sleep when you use subs.
- You sleep normalizes after a washout.
- You tried mostly the normal one on one off schedule.
- It doesnāt matter if you use 5 minutes or just one.
- It happens with SC specifically, but also with subs from other vendors, but not as strong (not surprising, since SC makes quite powerful subs)
The following questions can help you and us to better understand your situation.
How do these sleeping challenges show?
Do you lie awake and canāt fall asleep?
Or do you wake up repeatedly?
Or do you simply wake up earlier?
And how do you feel then?
Simply annoyed that you canāt sleep?
Some unrest?
Driven to do something?
Still energetic?
Absolutely tired but canāt find sleep?
What do you think about?
Worried about something?
Pondering about something?
Is there some pressure in your head?
For me, sleep challenges only come with Khan products, when the energy gets to much.
Iād classify this as recon as well as your challenges. Something is happening in your subconscious mind that stops your from sleeping.
So giving your mind less to process might be key.
To reduce the mental load, Iād recommend trying shorter loops stretched further apart.
Some users only used 10 seconds once a week (so they donāt get overwhelmed) and still got great results.
@Viktor used to use only 10 seconds and then increased only by 2-3 seconds every listening Day, because of recon.
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I sometimes have the same issues, try listening to the subliminals as soon as you wake up, when I listen later in the day especially if itās in the evening my sleep is the worst, half awake half sleep nightmare, when I listen in the morning itās better.
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Do you listen to Ultrasonic track, that one is loud so that might be the cause.
From another post:
Disrupted sleep from a single loop of one minute early in the morning is almost unheard of. And then, the notion that it is every title youāve tried is also telling, meaning titles that are exceptionally short would also produce this issue. As such, it is not an issue with the subliminal technology itself, but rather the nature of how the individual processes information.
The solution is always the same: even less exposure, increasing over time until youāve become acclimated to the product. If youāre saying 1 minute is still causing 45 minutes less sleep, do 30s.
And as we stated in the other post: These issues are generally the result of the subject matter, the individual tackling a wound or blockage that is deep within the self. We have never stated that we create the most āpackedā subliminals nor that ALL of our titles are information dense. Iāve noticed this trend of new subliminal producers focusing on how much information can be packed into one file.
We do not follow this trend, nor do we claim it, since we are sure that with the Zero Point method ā length and density isnāt nearly as important as subject matter. We build our titles to whatever length is necessary to accomplish the titleās goals. Some are short, some are longer.
Some of our most best performing features and tech are actually remarkably short. Others are longer than expected. But there is no rule that longer scripts and āmore informationā in a title equates to better results.
Furthermore, we have multiple titles that have scripting that enhances sleep optimization, accelerated healing and the such. When you wake up early, do you seem to have additional energy, or you have a level of mental clarity that you wouldnāt expect from waking up early?
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I use speakers on mono @Sub.Zero discovered this and I as soon as I wake up.
This way the recon hits in the morning and usually resolved in the noon and then I feel the best throughout the day and I sleep the best.
Sometimes the recon can go for a few days tho.
But mostly only the first few hours.
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@Sydney if you mind me asking, do you numb your emotions or have problem feeling them? I used to have this problem a lot, but running Renaissance Man is making this thing a lot better. The headache and tiredness is your brain reconciling emotions but most probably you are somewhere numbing them and this leads to strain on the nerves and cause that sleepy/fatigue feeling.
This is the case for me how did you resolve this particular issue?
Renaissance man to help you start feeling. This can help you process the script.
Yeah not gonna use that haha maybe anything that works on the emotions somehow can offers these benefits?
New Alchemist St 2 has transformation of emotions.
Mind asking you a last one? How comfortable are you with confronting your shadow self?
I am at peace with my shadow self.
Then I really donāt know 
Have you tried a daily meditation practice? Almost everyone who takes it up usually will see improvements in sleep.
IDK if weāre allowed to do this but read this dudeās story if you get a chance
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Is there any particular reason why you deleted your post? Perhaps it could be helpful to others.
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Especially considering the above. The solution you posted indeed could be helpful to others, as @SaintSovereign said.
Iāll also add, it seems that mineral/nutrient insufficiency in general could be a solution to your issue, since you found Boron to help.
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Iām feeling empathetic about your issues too because Iām having sleep disorders due to respiratory and digestive problems that manifested around 2-3 AM almost every night since starting the current cycle.
Iām listening to pretty short microloops too but you said that even washouts arenāt improving the situation.
I donāt know what to suggest you.
But you could try reviewing your daily habits to see if thereās something which can affect your sleeping patterns.
Diet, stress management, daily level of activity/exercise, use of technology could be something to investigate too.
Also we need to consider the fact that some people react in a very negative way to certain substances, when for the vast majority of population thereās no issue whatsoever. For example take a look at uncommon allergies for very healthy foods or even materials.
It was a deficiency that had nothing to do with subliminal use. Not sure why he decided to remove his post, but not going to go into detail in the case that he doesnāt want to share.