How do you solve the problem with sleeping?

[Sydney]

I have tried many times and have taken many various supplements for sleeping. Will see, maybe someone will have something helpful.

[Spartan]

@Sydney

To some extent, it is overall, but the worst is with SC, I assume because it is the most packed sublimal

I would suggest you try two / three weeks only subliminal club subs. The founders themselves do not recommend mixing their subs with outside YouTube subs since they arent anywhere near the same quality and there’s just so many producers out there who have no idea what they are doing in terms of safety and well being.

[Sydney]

Not doing any YT subs. Like I said
“I have ran many, more than 20 in total, over many years”
Almost the whole time were running them only from SC.

[Lion]

Best to put in a support ticket if you don’t get a satisfactory answer here.

Until then, I would advice Revelation of Dreams (it has entire Paragon Sleep scripting in it) + Dragon Reborn: Limit Destroyer to help break your sleep limits.

Maybe try a sleep time routine like dimming lights an hour before sleep, stopping electronics for around the same time, meditating for 15 to 20 and reading a paperback book for a while before you switch off all lights and sleep.

Am gusssinc you are very sensitive to the scripts. Maybe you will have to start listening from 10 seconds or 30 seconds before proceeding to longer listening times.

[Venus]

I get trouble sleeping if I listen to subliminals late, so now I only listen in the mornings, preferibly when I get up. As someone suggested perhaps you should listen less often.

Have you tried the new anti recon technology?

[SoulFire]

@Sydney

I have tried many times

What have you tried many times?

If you want more helpful answers you can share more precisely what listening schedules you have tried, etc.

You’re being very vague with your answers.

[Sydney]

@SoulFire

What have you tried many times?

@SoulFire

Instead of focusing on the issue you can focus on solutions

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@SoulFire

precisely what listening schedules you have tried

@Sydney

Forgot to mention it does not matter if I listen to them in the morning or in the evening, I prefer in the morning tho.

@Sydney

And this is not overexposure, it is even from 1 minute.

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Days like a normal schedule. One title in one day, rest day, One title in one day …

[SoulFire]

Ok so you have not tried listening just one loop per week. Try that and see how it goes.

[Sydney]

I have had a break for one month, during which I was not listening to any SC subs. After that, I did 1 min of sub and got 45 minutes less sleep, so this option is ruled out.

[SoulFire]

It’s already established that you sleep less with subs, but you’re here asking for advice because you want to be able to use subs.

So it’s not rocket science, either use a sub very little like once a week, just enough to get benefit, you sacrifice your first night with little less sleep, but the rest of the week should be fine, or at least in theory since you haven’t tried it.

Or you just stop using subs altogether and move on.

Am I missing something here?

[Spartan]

I would personally try this

• avoid caffeine or sugary drinks after lunch / around evening

• enable “warm light” on my screen on the phone and pc to reduce blue light that can keep us more awake

• only listen to sc subs - max two titles

• listen before lunch only (3 or 5 or 7 minutes)

• have 2 or 3 rest days in between each listening instead of one

• drink proper amount of water during the day

• close curtains if any moon light could enter the room at night

And track what happens for 2 weeks.

I have this app called “rise and sleep” and it’s totally free and it lets me know how much I sleep - it tracks when I stop and start using phone. It’s actually very accurate.

I actually believe that all these things combined might show you in two weeks that you might potentially be good with sleep.

And you could also make a support ticket about it if after 2 weeks it didn’t seem to help and you feel like you’re not getting good amount of sleep for you and let them know what you did in order to maximize your chances.

[Sydney]

@Spartan

avoid caffeine or sugary drinks after lunch / around evening

I do not drink coffee or sugary drinks.

@Spartan

enable “warm light” on my screen on the phone and pc to reduce blue light that can keep us more awake

Flux on computer, eye saver on a phone.

@Spartan

only listen to sc subs - max two titles

Mentioned only One sub

@Spartan

listen before lunch only (3 or 5 or 7 minutes)

Mentioned my preferred way is morning

@Spartan

have 2 or 3 rest days in between each listening instead of one

Mentioned had break one month, after that issue was still there.

@Spartan

drink proper amount of water during the day

There is no issue in that.

@Spartan

close curtains if any moon light could enter the room at night

Curtains are in a place plus a sleep mask.

@Spartan

I have this app called “rise and sleep” and it’s totally free and it lets me know how much I sleep - it tracks when I stop and start using phone. It’s actually very accurate.

Using a sleep tracker on my body

@Spartan

I actually believe that all these things combined might show you in two weeks that you might potentially be good with sleep.

Since everything mentioned above was done, and after one month break, was the issue still there after. So this use case was basically done, unfortunately, with no success.

[Spartan]

I’m sorry to hear that. It looks like you’ve been dealing with this a lot. Support ticket would seem appropriate with telling them all that you had implemented before.

I hope someone with this issue here who resolved it will be able to share what helped them. Wish I could help more truly.

[anon15812918]

try this:

The viscious low-level recon cycle

Because what you’re describing is a common phenomenon with those who process information in a certain way. Think of it like this – everyone has a unique “filter” that not only colors all information they receive, but also “directs” that information toward a method of digesting and processing it, and this is unique to the person. While the way this works is different with everyone, we can discern that everyone falls under a particular archetype (and this is how things like the MBTI works). In y…

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[CurlyGirl]

It could be that (SC) subliminals speak to your subconscious on a very deep level. When things — in your case, subliminals — “get under your skin”, they can absolutely affect your sleep.

For example: You hear that your best friend, whom you deeply value, has been badly betrayed. You’ll likely suffer with him because it really hits you emotionally.

But if the same thing happens to a distant acquaintance — someone you might see once every two years — it doesn’t affect you as much. It might even leave you completely indifferent.

Depending on what your subconscious associates with, some things hit harder than others. Personally, I think the subliminals resonate with you very well because they reach parts and aspects of your subconscious that other healing methods or other subs haven’t even come close to.

Yes, it sounds kind of rough because you’re sleeping poorly, but I believe they’ll bring you a lot in the long run.

Healing takes time.
Healing is often also pain.
And healing is often really shitty sleep, too.

I feel that way sometimes as well, especially when I use certain healing methods — subliminals, shadow work, etc. Even though it often annoys me, I keep reminding myself that everything has its reason and purpose — even the unpleasant stuff.

Just a thought I had when I read your post.

[Parsifal]

So to summarize:

• You get bad sleep when you use subs.
• You sleep normalizes after a washout.
• You tried mostly the normal one on one off schedule.
• It doesn’t matter if you use 5 minutes or just one.
• It happens with SC specifically, but also with subs from other vendors, but not as strong (not surprising, since SC makes quite powerful subs)

The following questions can help you and us to better understand your situation.

How do these sleeping challenges show?
Do you lie awake and can’t fall asleep?
Or do you wake up repeatedly?
Or do you simply wake up earlier?

And how do you feel then?
Simply annoyed that you can’t sleep?
Some unrest?
Driven to do something?
Still energetic?
Absolutely tired but can’t find sleep?

What do you think about?
Worried about something?
Pondering about something?
Is there some pressure in your head?

For me, sleep challenges only come with Khan products, when the energy gets to much.

I’d classify this as recon as well as your challenges. Something is happening in your subconscious mind that stops your from sleeping.
So giving your mind less to process might be key.

To reduce the mental load, I’d recommend trying shorter loops stretched further apart.
Some users only used 10 seconds once a week (so they don’t get overwhelmed) and still got great results.

@Viktor used to use only 10 seconds and then increased only by 2-3 seconds every listening Day, because of recon.

[RagnarLothbrok]

I sometimes have the same issues, try listening to the subliminals as soon as you wake up, when I listen later in the day especially if it’s in the evening my sleep is the worst, half awake half sleep nightmare, when I listen in the morning it’s better.

[Sydney]

Thanks to all for your inputs. I will try to change my way of listening. I always did it through headphones with Masked version and volume as low as possible, as far as I have been listening to at least some kind of sound, and from my computer.
Now I will try with my phone, not sure whether stereo or mono, masked version, and with volume somewhere in the middle. Probably something around 1 minute.

@RagnarLothbrok, What is your way of listening?

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

Do you listen to Ultrasonic track, that one is loud so that might be the cause.

[Sydney]

@Sydney

I always did it through headphones with Masked version

I do not know people, sometimes I have a feeling that many of you have a problem with reading