listen dude i hate censorship and all this tyranny going on over twitter and big tech and all that slavery thats going
i hate when i cant voice my opinion cuz some 400 pound person would think that i AM the harm to their health spreading what so called “misinformation” or whatever
feels like 1984 right ?
but. i think you should you try to be more understanding and more kind to RV, i dont think he meant to challenge you and go about like this way :
"WERE RIGHT AND YOURE WRONG’
i think he was genuinely asking you, why make it a big deal?
SubClub subs primitive. Funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
Love the Bruce Lee quote as an answer, it’s perfect. Too bad you had to start bashing RVC afterwards.
BlackIce is correct in saying that there’s more going on in the subs already. Consider that people like hypnotists and therapists are able to use nothing but words to trigger altered states. Or how there are techniques where different stories are told in each ear, causing the conscious mind to zone out because it can only follow one while the subconscious takes over because it can handle both.
So it is perfectly possible for the subs to induce changes in brainwaves, including synchronization. I suppose I could use my EEG and see if they change as I’m listening, but my brainwaves are unusual to begin with (I’m primarily theta-dominant).
I believe Ultima was written to specifically induce shifts in the brain.
As far as closing this thread and freedom of speech goes, I’ve just seen people refer to slavery, Hitler and obesity, so I think there’s a line somewhere still reeling from being crossed so fast. I might just follow up on it and indeed close this one.
That said, the subject has been written of many times. These are 2 specific ones, one of them mine:
It’s right up there with “should we meditate while listening to subs?” and I know that at least one of our more prominent members does just that every morning for an hour.
I would agree with the premise that if subs do nothing else but speak affirmations it would be beneficial to add brainwaves. But professional subs, not just limited to SubClub’s, do so much more. So there’s no saying what the effect might be of adding brainwave entrainment.
What I can say is that it’s a safe bet to assume that Saint & Fire have experimented and considered it. In the end, I believe they either came to the conclusion that they can achieve the same effect without using binaurals, or that forcing people into certain states would make the subs less accessible since they would have to warn not to run subs while driving or performing physical activities and working.
For example, with Mind’s Eye, saint noted that they replaced the Supercharger line with Ultima because Ultima was just as capable of state-shifting as the guided meditations were.
Anyways, if you are going to do it, try it on alternate days or even weeks. I suspect that even though it may feel nicer, in the end it doesn’t make any difference as far as progress goes. Or the difference is so small it’s just not worth it.
For the record, I’ve run subs with brainwave entrainment in alpha and theta, biofields and Solfeggio frequencies. Nothing jumped out as making the subs better.
You can rest easy knowing that we’ve tested everything there is out there. At this point, we are far beyond anything you can find - in fact, we have been innovating ever since Subliminal Club was created.
And we aren’t going to be taking a step back.
It’s quite interesting how people have a problem with basic human decency on forums.
I invite you to go ahead and check out the different forums and communities on the Internet. You’ll find communities that are vastly different from the one we’ve created here - communities that let toxic individuals run rampant, allowing them to abuse others with impunity.
This isn’t such a place.
We’ll happily suspend and stop doing business with individuals who are toxic or rude, even if such individuals will then turn around and call us “dictatorial”.
We want to create a community that can freely share knowledge, profound secrets and discuss matters that can transform individuals and take them to ever-greater heights. I like to call it the “campfire idea” - because at the campfire friends can sit down and talk about the greatest mysteries, share stories and help each other transcend all limitations.
But the moment an individual comes barging in, stomping on the campfire and spitting on the people sitting around it - that is when they are escorted out.
Personally, I’m a bit surprised at the replies you’ve posted in this thread and the flippant attitude you’ve exhibited. I’ve found the previous posts you’ve created in the community to be well-measured, calm and helpful. You’ve also seen the rare situations with abusive individuals that we had in the past, so you know very well what I’m talking about and you’ve seen how we approach things.
Ultimately, it is your choice. If you believe this is something you cannot abide by, you are free to find another subliminal company. If you’d like to stay, you are welcome to do so, as long as you are respectful like you were before.
As for your question about brain frequencies/waves, here is a tiny sneak peek into an excerpt from something we’ve been working on in the background:
An interesting concept - listening to frequencies that will gradually shift your mental state.
We naturally, throughout our days and nights, shift our brain state to that state which is most appropriate and useful for the situation.
During sleep, our brainwave frequencies naturally get slower allowing for proper sleep.
Same occurs during meditation - the brain’s frequencies get slower while still keeping conscious awareness.
So wouldn’t it be useful to be able to get into a more deeper state that allows for higher creativity for example?
Not necessarily.
The different brain states are there for a reason. There is no great benefit in attempting to stay in a deep state throughout your day (especially considering it is a temporary state) - only if you were to listen to them during meditation, deep work or some spiritual practice. Here there is some benefit as it can allow you to enter into a deeper state allowing for more deep-level work if you know what you are doing - but it is important not to use these as a crutch to replace lack of skill and practice. Instead, use it to train and build experience in those deeper states, and then achieve them on your own.
Now to continue - the higher brain states are there for a reason, so attempting to replace them with a deep state for every moment in your day is going to be counterproductive.
Furthermore, our subliminals naturally, when it is needed, guide your brainwaves to the optimal state needed for processing and execution of the subliminal. You cannot consciously know when you need to be in a specific mind state that is currently needed for optimal processing and execution, and consequently listen to the needed brain frequency.
You can’t, but your subconscious can.
In other words, by listening to external brainwave frequencies you are potentially throwing off balance not just your natural brain state rhythm, but also the one that the subliminal is guiding you towards.
All in all - they can have some limited use, but we recommend not utilizing brainwave frequencies as it can mess with the natural rhythm and the guidance of our subliminals.
As a side note, utilizing brain frequencies in subliminals is basically a gimmick that quite a few subliminal producers/companies love to use. Developing and innovating actual subliminal technology is an incredibly expensive and extensive process (when doing it correctly), but any subliminal producer or company can always just add brainwave frequencies, claim it is therefore special and call it a day. However, even the most basic but properly made subliminal will guide your state naturally and in a much more effective manner than brain frequencies.
