I was about to comment that, this whole phenomena started with WDB ! But the solution is pretty simple, like the update of Inner Circle that was a manifestation title, now it does have the script to give you the skills to be able to deal with people + manifestation to make it more solid.
It’s very sad that the release of titles could be slowed because of what happened here …
Let’s try to not look at it like this. Zero Point Union is very potent (and this is the early version) and understanding how to use it is necessary for the technology to progress. Slowing down a bit could be a blessing in disguise.
My goal is to truly see the titles that were overlooked, like CWF, Sanguine, and others, get the second chance they deserve. That’s why I feel a bit sad about the situation. But you’re right we have to give people the space to adapt and integrate change.
And I hate to be the one saying this, but I’m with @SaintSovereign on this one, concerning realigning the rate of expansion into ZPU
First it was “We need more powerful subs”
Then “oh recon too strong”
Then it became “We need more detailed copy to understand and guide sub”
Then “Oh, copy is too long”
Then, “oh, too much philosophy and I can’t read in between the lines”
Then, “oh it sounds to mechanical and it loses its magic”
Now, “I didn’t read the copy and I’m just going to make assumptions, and even if I did, I’ll ignore what comes up within me and misinterpret it”
Guys I know this is part of the refinement process between the users and the creators to create better products, but this bull from the WDB thread and now, here is absolutely ridiculous.
Please sit down, relax, introspect, don’t draw conclusions for others, neither construe your own opinion as theirs. Also, don’t expect your path of progression to be spoon fed to you as that is your job to realize.
PS: I’m not here to point fingers at anyone, neither am I here to place myself in my higher standing on whatever hierarchy you consider.
I am simply pointing out a pattern I’ve observed and saying we can do without it as a community.
Damn, took me over 20 mins type this out
I just hope this doesn’t have an effect on the planned QPro features and freedoms they were originally talking about last year. I won’t complain about having more time to get used to the new tech and its intricacies, but it’ll be a little disappointing if things devolve into more handholding because a vocal minority is dealing with more recon/resistance to change than usual. Or maybe it’s the solution, I don’t know. I’m just always of the opinion that more customer freedom is ultimately better and that it’s up to the individual to adapt to said freedom. I’d hate to see previously planned features get “nerfed” (for lack of a better term).
I’ll put this at ease again. NO NERFS. The Road to Zero Point Union is set. No going back, and we’re quite confident and unyielding on this. We’re talking more about expanding the instruction manual, providing more guidance, upgrading qOS, etc.
It was only a handful of people, whereas many more had positive reactions.
I know it’s disappointing and you guys were excited and had high expectations for the public perception of the launch, but don’t let it spoil you on continuing to push the envelope and create legendary products.
Edit - didn’t read the rest of the thread and the comment above me literally saying “NO NERFS” lol. Nevermind yall
Respectfully disagree a bit.
ZPU is building up to be an incredibly powerful and sophisticated set of tools and with many releases there comes an emotional wave into the forum (early overload, recon, trailer effect, tl;dr misunderstandings, giddy excitement, emotional investment & expectations by fans for remakes etc.) that needs a bit time to dissolve. And with ever quicker and stronger results, exchange of first impressions makes a lot more sense than before.
Just some time to breath, soaking in the copy and discussions on here. A bit mindfulness would go IMO go a long way.
And on a personal note, I totally get why everyone wants their favorite subs remade like yesterday, but “And now do X!” on a release day feels a tiny bit disrespectful and unappreciative for the absolute bangers that drop here on a regular basis.
I was thinking of stacking C&C with Nouveau RICH and EOG2.
Looking at what the new RICH has become, I’ll hold off on NR until it is upgraded. New RICH will take its place. C&C + New RICH + EOG2 looks like a serious money maker.
@SaintSovereign what say you?
I don’t know what your testing process is nowadays.
But I wonder if you need to have a bit longer testing cycles in between the releases.
Like you did with the original ZP. And Q.
Speed is nice, but what’s the point if it just leads to a faster crash…
And no, I’m not volunteering to be a tester. There are many more capable users for that here.
Maybe try to stir up the heat to push for black version lol. Remember Stark?
I’m in a washout for a week. Cannot wait to listen to new RICH next week
Alright – let’s focus solely on R.I.C.H. results going forward.
Check PM, please.
I want to share some results.
As you all know I work at a restaurant with very expensive prices.
Before R.I.C.H I had occasionally sold some of the more expensive specials, but most of the time I couldn’t.
Ever since the title came out, the customers just buy whatever I tell them, if it’s going from wanting a glass of wine to buying a bottle and if it’s buying expensive steaks.
The managers now think I have become a crazy salesman, but in reality I need zero convincing, I just tell them about it and they buy it.
They also give goods tips.
Would love some feedback from not just @SaintSovereign but others on this as well: Azriel-All Wealth -Rainmaker - #1125 by Plutus
Especially if your in a corporate career or doing sales.
I listened to rich for 7 min and went to work. I usually respond very quickly to these subs so here’s what I noticed.
First thing I noticed is the nervous system calibration script , the new subs just keep improving it somehow, as someone who struggled with anxiety the majority of my life the new technology is miraculous. It honestly feels like they are removing generational trauma from my nervous system and putting me in a relaxed state that is only achievable naturally by doing hours of mediation, breathwork or similar practices to calm the nervous system down, but I am doing none of these so it feels like a cheat code without any downsides.
The way I talk, walk, grap things is just so smooth and relaxed it feels so foreign to my mind but very natural to my body.
Also, I already notice a huge mindset shift regarding wealth/career. I am currently in a transitional period of my life and started a temporary job that I know will be quitting soon for something better, just have to wait a while before I quit, my thinking changed from mild frustration in my current job to excitement for the coming day when I quit and start what I have been planning.
I am genuinely excited for the upcoming career change instead of being frustrated with my current state, which is a huge mindset shift that I desperately needed.
Externally, one day is not remotely enough to tell what the sub is doing, especially manifestation wise, will be writing more as I discover what this sub is doing but I did notice some unusual things at work.
A work colleague started nit picking things I am doing at work and telling me how I could improve, they didn’t say it impolitely, just unusually nit picking so many things all of a sudden and I am not sure what could be the reason.
Maybe it’s one of those usual status games that are stemming from insecurity? Or maybe it’s envy that the sub description is talking about?
Or could it be the rich aura effecting them and making them care about my work performance more than usual since my work performance effects them as well?
Or could it be my own subconscious attracting annoying things to me in my current deadend job so that I could quickly move on to something better? Any thoughts?
I also felt extremely calm when they were nit picking things, did not feel that I needed to react, I considered saying something but decided to just observe their strange behavior.
Rich is gonna be my main sub this year, I just need to add another sub that maybe protects me from such behaviors from others, or maybe I should just power through it and let it push away/expose relationships that don’t benefit me without caring? I know if I added something like emperor c&c such behaviors would stop but I also don’t want any intimidating auras, I don’t do well with those internally, so I am a bit indecisive of what sub to add to rich atm.
I had to come out of an almost multi-year lurk to post about R.I.C.H. I’m really fired up in a way that I haven’t been in a while.
R.I.C.H., Khan, and BL were the first set of subs that I purchased from my own will and not the recommendations of veteran members.
Interesting to note that I passed the monthly goal I wrote in that post (not “passive” but now over triple the salary I was making then 
).
At the time I was really desperate for money, and the “mind boggling” manifestations part of the copy is what sold me.
And less than two days from the post I linked above, I got a truly mind-boggling manifestation. I still remember it to this day because it was what convinced me without a shadow of a doubt that subs worked on some level.
So R.I.C.H. is a really special title for me.
I haven’t been very consistent with stacks at all, but I’ve come back to R.I.C.H at various points in time and it’s always the same pattern. I’ll get a crazy, near-instant, pretty darn good manifestation of cash, and then trickles of money (random Amazon cash back, random email about class-action lawsuit or some company had a problem and is giving customers xxx yen as an apology, random money found, etc.)… and then kind of nothing.
So my thing with R.I.C.H has been, “It works, but I don’t want one-off manifestations.” And to be fair, I obviously haven’t stayed on it long enough to see much more than one-off manifestations.
Currently, I’m looking for a second, very particular type of job that will help me take another big step up in terms of lifestyle. I’m also secretly hoping my company does really well this year because that would be a huge payoff down the line.
When I saw the new R.I.C.H I was a little worried that it became too Mogul / EoG esque and would lose that instant-manifestation “mind boggling” magic. But I was also excited because it seemed like maybe this would be a better version of R.I.C.H that would help me manifest money in the way I wanted to – through another solid form of income.
I was also super weirded out about microloops being the official strategy. It’s hard to believe that 15 seconds of anything can do, well, anything. But this is my first officially ZPU-branded sub so I figured I’d give it a try.
I ran 15s of Chosen and 15s of RICH yesterday.
Results:
I very quickly noticed the state shift and “energy leak” scripting in play. An area in which I have a huge compulsion to spend felt like it was immediately zipped up, for lack of a better expression. It’s not calling me and my body feels completely in control of that energy.
Today I got an unexpected bonus at work. Seriously out of the blue… lol wtf. My manager hit me today at the end of a call with “oh by the way some good news” and told me even he was surprised that I got a bonus in this way. The document was only shared with me over video call, so I took a quick picture 
It’s small because it’s prorated for a period that I technically wasn’t supposed to qualify for at all. But money is money and I’ll gladly take it.
Energy leak closed up
Classic R.I.C.H. instant manifestation
… now will it finally help me get that second job?
Let’s see some more results!
Awesome @saint
@SaintSovereign & @Fire petition to bring the energetic scripting to all the titles.
Signed,
@Metamorphosis
