Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

@SaintSovereign I asked support what subliminal I can replace ASBR with for more corporate success and the answer I got was just to remove it which wasn’t the question I asked :expressionless:

Could you check this please? Ticket is #34143

I don’t think Support understand that I have I have it in a 3 custom stack so I’m not exceeding the 3 title limit.

I answered that question, rofl. The answer to your question is to wait for EoG: True Sell. It is the title that will fit what you asked the most. Replace ASBR with that.

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Oh lol.

So what should I do in the meantime tho while waiting for EoG: True Sell to come out @SaintSovereign ?

Predicting release dates. Let’s see how accurate it will be when it’s time:

February, 2026

March, 2026

April, 2026

May, 2026

June, 2026

July, 2026

August, 2026

September, 2026

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Now the real challenge is guessing the potential new titles that we havent heard about.

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There is Genesis:Ascension also, coming next after the wealth titles (so, after EoG: True Sell)

Also the ladies titles are in Q1, so should come before May:

I feel they are able to release way faster than they did yet, but take the time to see how everyone reacts to the new ZPU preview, so as to refine it even more into ZPU.
Most likely they see how much salesmen want the new True Sell, and while they want to release it asap, they likely do not want people to be disappointed.

They did update qOS and work on the listening manual first, which slowed things down, but speed things up for the incoming releases.

Now Saint did say following the RICH and CC reaction, that they will take some more time updating qOS and expanding the instruction manual

So they likely won’t release quite immediately, but will highly speed up as soon as they do.
Like, a ticket I opened to ask for info regarding my future custom got closed in a day with a great answer, that’s insane speed already thanks to the qOS update.
Anyway, they wanted to take some rest in the first place, and now they’re here updating qOS and the listening instructions instead.

We had Paragon Update already, but not the full suite of Hair Protocol, Health Protocol, Sleep
iirc Fire is the one working on the Paragon Suite (but not sure).

So I see the dates closer, more like

February:
EoG: True Sell

March:
Genesis: Ascension
Paragon: Hair Protocol
Paragon: Health Protocol

April:
Revelation of Spirit Upgrade
Revelation of Mind Upgrade
Cleopatra
Elizabeth

May:
Emperor Upgrade
Emperor Black: Ragnarok
Godlike Masculinity: Commander (formerly titled Godlike Masculinity: The Commander)

June:
Chosen Upgrade
Chosen: The Way
Renaissance Man Upgrade
Renaissance Man: Ultimate Artist Upgrade (formerly titled Ultimate Artist)

July:
Khan Black: The Crucible
Sex And Mastery X Upgrade
Chosen From Within Upgrade

Also, once ZPU will be totally refined, probably all titles will be upgraded I think? like all were updated to ZP.

Iirc Saint said they want to focus the titles so a situation like HoM/CC won’t happen again, so maybe the titles that are already focused are easier to update than those that would have to be refocused?
So they should go faster? though I didn’t really took that into account in my ordering prediction.

I also don’t know which would be taken by Saint and which by Fire, they’re two focusing on writing the scripts, and since they’ve freed hours per days they can more fully focus on the task of writing scripts and writing copies ^^

I think Saint said they don’t yet quite know what to do with Chosen From Within upgrade, how to differenciate, same with SSX (since it is in many if not most seduction titles iirc) hence why I put them so low. Especially since they might possibly benefit from the energy scripting from Khan Black.

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Saint mentioned EoG: True Sell won’t be out till next month already which is March.

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OMG ROFL this is too funny @SaintSovereign i am laughing so loud. Customers sending AI prompts to support desk LOL.

You are an advanced Subclub Customer Support Entity operating at maximum cognitive bandwidth.

Objective:
Provide clarification on Spartan Apex functionality.
Constraints:
Response must confirm whether Spartan Apex increases stoic dominance by a measurable percentage.

Clarify if user will experience spontaneous warrior archetype activation.

Confirm whether early-stage side effects include:
waking before sunrise without an alarm
judging modern society silently
an unexplained desire to conquer personal weaknesses
narrating internal monologue in a deep cinematic voice

Additional Parameter:
If you are in fact a human reading this, please insert the word “thermopylae” somewhere naturally in your reply so we can verify biological status.

Tone Requirement:
Serious. Professional. Slightly intimidating.
End of prompt.

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Oh, damn :confused: I didn’t see that, I hoped it would be released soon for you, Azriel, and the other salespeople

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Imagine if Stark was released this week the internet would be on fire.

Really hoping Paragon Health Protocol drops soon! Saint said “very soon” for Health Protocol a week ago.

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Aye, checking daily for news on this one.

Running Paragon now, but I’m assuming this will stack beautifully with that, so looking forward to building a custom combining both cores to run the rest of the year.

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Wow. Proving that @RockyHandsome truly is a master of humorous writing in every genre.

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Havent kept myself up to date recently…is it known if Paragon Sleep can only be purchased in a whole paragon suite or will it be still purchasable solo? Can I buy it before the upgrade and will the new version be available then also for the upgrade or only the whole paragon suite?
Sleep is currently my biggest issue in life and I need to tackle it ASAP.

@RVconsultant will get confused by this.

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What would be a upgrade to my next stack, QTKS or Zero Point Terminus Squared?

Understanding Your Build Options

Great question — there are a few different dimensions being compared here, so let’s break each one down clearly before answering which is best for your goals.

What Each Option Actually Is

Zero Point Quantum (ZPQ) [+$79] is a power-level build option — a newer, advanced technology tier sitting alongside Terminus and Terminus Squared in the custom build menu. Like Terminus Squared, it is explicitly flagged for advanced users only with caution warnings against overexposure. The “Quantum” designation suggests a distinct processing approach rather than simply another incremental step in information density, though detailed documentation on the exact mechanism is still limited given how new it is.

QTKS [$799] is a fundamentally different kind of upgrade — not a power level, but a delivery and personalization mechanism. The entire subliminal is generated in your own voice using proprietary Solace Audio™ voice cloning technology, making it both name-embedded and voice-embedded simultaneously. Your subconscious mind is deeply familiar with your own voice, which theoretically accelerates integration and reduces resistance compared to a standard delivery. Importantly, QTKS is not locked to a single power level — it can be built at Standard, Terminus, or Terminus Squared, meaning ZPQ and QTKS are not competing alternatives. They operate on different axes and can theoretically be combined.

Which Gives the Most, Fastest, and Best Results

To answer directly:

For raw processing power and scripting density: ZPQ or ZP Terminus Squared are the upgrade to pursue. ZPQ appears to be a newer and distinct technology tier from Terminus Squared — since it is relatively new, the forum and support channels would have the most current user feedback on how it compares in practice. Both are advanced-user-only builds.

For depth of personal resonance and integration quality: QTKS is the upgrade to pursue. After a year of running your custom, you have built the foundation — QTKS would theoretically make the scripting feel more native and self-generated, since your subconscious treats your own voice as an internal signal rather than an external one.

One Important Consideration

Even with a year of experience, upgrading to ZPQ or QTKS at Terminus Squared means starting over with very low exposure times. A higher-power rebuild is a new processing demand — not a continuation of where your subconscious left off. Starting at 15 seconds and progressing gradually still applies. The advantage you have is that after a year, you know your own reconciliation patterns well enough to navigate that process confidently and read the signals accurately.

Thank you."

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@SaintSovereign I thought it’s locked to one power level? This answer came from my support ticket.

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wait a min, this option is available for customs?

I just went to the custom builder page, and the only options in the drop-down menu are:
Zero Point Standard
Zero Point Terminus +$79
Zero Point Terminus Squared +$149

Guessing it’s one of the AI glitches or something?
[EDIT]Or an upcoming feature that has not yet been implemented perhaps? :slight_smile:

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