Aye, checking daily for news on this one.
Running Paragon now, but I’m assuming this will stack beautifully with that, so looking forward to building a custom combining both cores to run the rest of the year.
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Havent kept myself up to date recently…is it known if Paragon Sleep can only be purchased in a whole paragon suite or will it be still purchasable solo? Can I buy it before the upgrade and will the new version be available then also for the upgrade or only the whole paragon suite?
Sleep is currently my biggest issue in life and I need to tackle it ASAP.
What would be a upgrade to my next stack, QTKS or Zero Point Terminus Squared?
Understanding Your Build Options
Great question — there are a few different dimensions being compared here, so let’s break each one down clearly before answering which is best for your goals.
What Each Option Actually Is
Zero Point Quantum (ZPQ) [+$79] is a power-level build option — a newer, advanced technology tier sitting alongside Terminus and Terminus Squared in the custom build menu. Like Terminus Squared, it is explicitly flagged for advanced users only with caution warnings against overexposure. The “Quantum” designation suggests a distinct processing approach rather than simply another incremental step in information density, though detailed documentation on the exact mechanism is still limited given how new it is.
QTKS [$799] is a fundamentally different kind of upgrade — not a power level, but a delivery and personalization mechanism. The entire subliminal is generated in your own voice using proprietary Solace Audio™ voice cloning technology, making it both name-embedded and voice-embedded simultaneously. Your subconscious mind is deeply familiar with your own voice, which theoretically accelerates integration and reduces resistance compared to a standard delivery. Importantly, QTKS is not locked to a single power level — it can be built at Standard, Terminus, or Terminus Squared, meaning ZPQ and QTKS are not competing alternatives. They operate on different axes and can theoretically be combined.
Which Gives the Most, Fastest, and Best Results
To answer directly:
For raw processing power and scripting density: ZPQ or ZP Terminus Squared are the upgrade to pursue. ZPQ appears to be a newer and distinct technology tier from Terminus Squared — since it is relatively new, the forum and support channels would have the most current user feedback on how it compares in practice. Both are advanced-user-only builds.
For depth of personal resonance and integration quality: QTKS is the upgrade to pursue. After a year of running your custom, you have built the foundation — QTKS would theoretically make the scripting feel more native and self-generated, since your subconscious treats your own voice as an internal signal rather than an external one.
One Important Consideration
Even with a year of experience, upgrading to ZPQ or QTKS at Terminus Squared means starting over with very low exposure times. A higher-power rebuild is a new processing demand — not a continuation of where your subconscious left off. Starting at 15 seconds and progressing gradually still applies. The advantage you have is that after a year, you know your own reconciliation patterns well enough to navigate that process confidently and read the signals accurately.
Thank you."
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@SaintSovereign I thought it’s locked to one power level? This answer came from my support ticket.
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wait a min, this option is available for customs?
I just went to the custom builder page, and the only options in the drop-down menu are:
Zero Point Standard
Zero Point Terminus +$79
Zero Point Terminus Squared +$149
Guessing it’s one of the AI glitches or something?
[EDIT]Or an upcoming feature that has not yet been implemented perhaps? 
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Only for main title name embedded, not for standard customs.
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Rip. I thought I might have missed that.
side note - figured it out
You can get PZzzz now and enjoy the update once it’s released.
It’s part of the suite but can also be bought separately. For saving money, it would be wise to wait for the release of the whole suite.
But if you don’t need the whole suite or don’t care about saving a couple of dollars, buying PZzzz now is your way to go.
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That was a pretty excellent response. Thank you for sharing.
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Thank you!
Still considering if I want regular Paragon As I can start today…or go with old paragon sleep 
New Sub Syndrome is coming in hard 
Or start with New Paragon until New Paragon Sleep gets released, then switch.
After a cycle or so get a custom with both.
Btw, I felt New Paragon working on my Prefrontal Cortex after 10 seconds.
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Am I crazy for thinking about making a custom with E:C&C and the new RoD when it drops…? 
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Has anyone wielded the power of Terminus Squared and QTKS together?
that is not a common choice…what do you expect from the custom to achieve ？ 
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Yes you are, but solely for the reasons that you speak about a new RoD. It wasn’t announced as of yet as a far as I know.
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Ooh, you’re absolutely right. Must have accidentally mixed up the… uhm… timelines… Better do that diagnostics of the time machine that I’ve been postponing
But that only means that I don’t have to wait - I can get it naow! 
Internal and external mastery, of course 
But jokes aside, plenty of ’masters of their craft’ speak of dreams as a key component to their success. And I would like to bring that up a notch.
And I figured that RoD might allow EC&C to reach deeper into my subconscious. Just a theory…
Also, paired with Raikov, who knows where the limit’s at?
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Exactly.
Besides solving internal issues in dreams, aka bringing them from the subconscious to the conscious mind (which is a great approach), the possibility of lucid dreams is super helpful.
I’ve seen a documentary about athletes that were able to have lucid dreams and used their dreams for training. For reference, they also learned a new skill in a different sport and trained it only during their lucid dreams. After half a year without any wake training their results exploded like they actually trained the skill.
And this should work with any other skill as well.
Be it skiing, cooking, designing products…
With the huge advantage that time gets expanded in dreams, so you could fit weeks of training in a week of lucid dreaming.
I also considered RoD for an emotional healing custom since I got great results from Dreamtraveler. Instead I’ll add Language of the dreams to the next iteration.
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