[FREE UPGRADE] Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Paragon -- Now Available!

[Goldfinger]

I’ve had some persistent chest pain for a while now, about a week ago there was this creeping sensation from my heart area towards both lungs, like the pain was spreading out.

Did a 3 min loop of Paragon on Tuesday. At exactly the one minute mark, I felt something fall off from my left lung area. The sensation along with the pain are gone and haven’t returned since. Now the pain is only around my heart area.

Slept for about 9 hours but still woke up tired the next morning. Seems this Paragon is way stronger than the previous one.

PS: I’ve seen a doctor about the pain already

[TheEmpress]

I just finished a 10min loop of this and feel super relaxed… I wasn’t going to listen yet since my current stack is Alchemist Singularity and Seductress, but my arm is sore from a bad bloodwork experience earlier. (Just being responsible doing an STI screening for a new partner.)

Currently icing my sore arm.

Looking forward to seeing the results from this.

Thank you Saint & Fire for updating one of the first titles I started out with here. Much appreciated.

Edit: I was definitely feeling some discomfort in the front of my head from that 1 loop. It definitely hits differently than original paragon, as already mentioned here.

I took a 3 day wash out to let myself come into balance.

1 loop helped me find relief in my sore arm where blood was supposed to be drawn. The lab tech had the needle in my arm and was moving it around.

Take it easy with this title. Even if you’re used to doing full loops. When I decide to listen again, I’ll be reducing the listening time.

[Melody]

I’m not sure if everyone is aware of the new instructions that will be introduced and Saint said himself that micro-loops are the new standard and then building up as you gain experience with the program. People are only becoming aware of this now.

[Judoka]

Yeah i started with 3 minutes as saint said the the update and previous paragon were similar script length so i assumed i could just handle the same amount

[Melody]

@Judoka Perhaps you can

[SaintSovereign]

Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Instruction Manual Soft Launch: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com/ Going forward, the instruction manual will be housed here. This makes it easier for us to make updates to the instruction manual without having to do the absolutely mind-numbing task that we have to do now – rebuild every title with the updated Instruction Manual link included. This will happen in bursts over the course of a few days. We will let everyone know when all of the downloads have been updated with the link. We …

[Layman]

@Fire

Sure, just keep in mind that healing titles can be energy hungry, especially if you’re using it to help deal with something acute. So would not recommend going overboard with energy-related or physical shifting titles, as the energy would need to be spread out between the titles.

@Fire and @SaintSovereign
2 questions about this, if you have time!

1. Would new Wanted (2025) be fine to run alongside new Paragon in a stack?
   Wanted contains physical shifting, but I’m guessing comparatively light vs (e.g.) Spartan or LOTS?

2. I’m a bit confused with regards how I might put Paragon into a 2-core custom.
   In my revised stack, I’d like to run a stack of two customs with 2 cores each (and a small selection of modules).
   For the other custom, it’s easy to see how titles can be paired for synergy (for example Emperor and EE, or Genesis: Mogul and Limitless: Raikov, or WDB & DD: True Social)

But Paragon is healing, and aside from physical shifting (which isn’t recommended) or emotional healing, it seems most other titles are very different with different goals.

So should Paragon be run in its own separate custom?
Or could I run it in the same custom with, for example, Wanted or Limitless: RAIKOV and still have an effective custom?

[Ravenscout]

@Fire Any update to when we could possibly see Paragon: Health Protocol release?

[SaintSovereign]

@Ravenscout

@Fire Any update to when we could possibly see Paragon: Health Protocol release?

Very soon. We had to finish the new instructions before launching the rest of the Paragon suite.

[Philemon]

Question about recon on this title.

I gave paragon to my mum that is working on her health. I am asking because she is not very aware of her inner world and cant tell if she is experiencing recon. The rest day after her first 30 second loop she started getting some pain in her foot. She’s now on her second rest day after another 30 second loop yesterday and it has gotten worse.

This may be completely unrelated to the subliminal as she is very active and might have some more strain than usual. Although wondering if its plausible that some of the features such as increased communication with body, energy and nervous system work may have revealed pain that she had been ignoring before. For context it has been a common trend for her to overexert and I am usually telling her to take more rest, hence why I think it could be a recon symptom. I will reduce her exposure to 15 seconds and give her a rest day as a hedge incase.

I am not running this title so I have no way to tell for her. Would appreciate some insights.

As for blooms she is sleeping better already wich was an issue for her, and she feels her menopause symptoms are easing slightly. she is very happy about that.

[Benny]

The recon I feel using Paragon is really strong

And haven’t heard from @Fire why the pressure in the forehead?
It was not present in the older version.

I’m sure there’s a good reason for it.
Maybe I’m missing something from the description?
But I’m not sure

@Benny

And the pressure in the prefrontal cortex is really bad not sure why Paragon is doing this?

Other users mentioned it as well. That’s why I’m curious .
I don’t think it should be a problem as micro loops probably will take care of it until it stops?

[Judoka]

I was actually thinking this as well

This new version is definitly denser compared to the old one

[Parsifal]

I mean, Saint stated that ZPU titles are much stronger. To the point of reducing the max of subs per listening day back to two.

And about the pressure in the forehead, it was the point convincing me to add it to my anti ADHD custom. Because I feel the rewiring at work.

[Benny]

@Parsifal

To the point of reducing the max of subs per listening day back to two.

So wait not to listen to 3 subs a day? I thought we should if it’s the anti-recon tech?

ZPU is still on its way no? Meaning paragon isn’t zpu

[Parsifal]

Paragon is still ZP (just checked to be sure).
But we’re getting closer.
Maybe after the the Revelations?

And as it seems now, ZPU will be so powerful, that three titles on a listening day would be to much. So they reduced the recommendation to 2-1 instead of three.
So like in the old days, 2 titles on one listening day, 1 on the next listening day, repeat.

[SaintSovereign]

@Benny

So wait not to listen to 3 subs a day? I thought we should if it’s the anti-recon tech?

Paragon is early ZPU.

Follow the listening pattern in the new instruction manual: http://instructions.subliminalclub.com

[RagnarLothbrok]

If I have some health issues, I have gone to many doctors and did many tests and nothing showed up, I have Eno idea what is the cause of my problems so I have no actions to take, can I just use Paragon and it will heal my issues?

[SaintSovereign]

@RagnarLothbrok

If I have some health issues, I have gone to many doctors and did many tests and nothing showed up, I have Eno idea what is the cause of my problems so I have no actions to take, can I just use Paragon and it will heal my issues?

You know we can’t answer that question. You’ll have to test to find out – but proceed with caution and keeping up with all medical appointments and the such.

[SaintSovereign]

@Philemon

I am asking because she is not very aware of her inner world and cant tell if she is experiencing recon.

@Philemon

This may be completely unrelated to the subliminal as she is very active and might have some more strain than usual. Although wondering if its plausible that some of the features such as increased communication with body, energy and nervous system work may have revealed pain that she had been ignoring before. For context it has been a common trend for her to overexert and I am usually telling her to take more rest, hence why I think it could be a recon symptom. I will reduce her exposure to 15 seconds and give her a rest day as a hedge incase.

It is unlikely that this is the direct result of Paragon. Since she does not have conscious access to her inner world (which is more common than you’d think, so it’s not a failing on her part), she likely didn’t register that Paragon has a very calming and energizing effect, overdid it and when she rested the next day, the effects of overexertion revealed itself. Similar to those days at the gym when you workout very hard and can sense that you’re going to be very sore the next day.

EDIT: Please let her know this – not to assume that feeling good in the moment means she’s healed and can proceed with overexertion.

[RagnarLothbrok]

I just want to know if it’s worth a spot in my stack, since I’m limiting myself to only 2 titles.

If you think it can’t help me I will just continue my stack of C&C + WDB, if the healing from Paragon can help somehow, I will add it instead of one of those titles.

Thanks