This is an excellent perspective to have. Thank you for sharing this 
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This recon cloud seems to be over now. I’ve learned to be in touch with everything that was making me feel pain and discomfort and somehow made peace with it.
An analogy would be if you are playing a videogame… where there is an optional side mission where you lose 90% of your powerups and are stuck in a very dark level where the road is unclear… that level is like a mini rage game. I’ve finally beat it.
This was evidentöy caused by the slow burn of using 4 zps and eventually the monstrosity twice… after that i’ve used an entierly new sub which was Wanted.
In that short space i’ve been using subs 4 times a week for over 2 months now… as of today i have been sub free for 4 days now and it feels like i am getting my powers back + i have the lessons i’ve learned from that optional side mission.
While this experiance was invaluable to me. I would not reccomend it to a soul knowing how easily i could have made big mistakes in the heat of the moment.
What this recon showed me was the true and utter importance of having self love and inner peace. Normally, i would need to go through a tragedy to stimulate this type of pain yet i got this experiance by over listening to an audio file for such an afordable price online… I could never repay Subclub for the growth and experiances i have been having.
Even when we are not getting results… we are getting the a recon with the potential to skyrocket ones develpment for success and happiness. Just think about it, without the recon… what would it take for you to feel this cornred to deal with whatever needs to be dealt with?
Yet its relativly safe and harmless ( unless you OD on ZPs like i did 
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So for everyone out there. Do not overuse ZPs… they work best with time. If for example you use a ZP sub for 1 loop. The benifits start snowballing around day 2 and reaches its apex around day 5 then it starts dipping.
Personally i dont believe i have the emotional stregnth to go through another recon cloud until the end of this year… NO MORE 4 ZPS for me… Nhoooooooooo sir
PS: I am so happy i made the post about my lucky friend. It will remind me of the dark place my mind was stuck in. Resorting to believe that luck was the only root of happiness and hard work is nothing but a coping mechanism compared to the blessed ones. That was and will forever be a reminder of my biggest enemy. The beliefe that my life and happiness is not my choice but a roll of dice. Every time i feel down i will remeber that post and remind myself what i overcame.
That pain i’ve been through. I will take a piece of it with me where ever i go. To remind myself that it hurt alot. But i got up and i am still alive…
And no matter how painful it was. I am still alive… and it did not break me
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Today i was out and about going to few places. Talked to few girls, got rejected by all but i didn’t feel like a rejection. I felt amazing opening and talking, even if i was a little awkward, to strangers. I felt like i internalized a quote from the alabaster girl. " The interaction is the only outcome that matters "
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I met with a cute bartender a while ago. She actually made the first move by asking me to go outside with her and kept chatting me up. We kissed, met a few times by now and its been really amazing. Shes definitly an ENFP which explains the intense chemistry.
Today i was talking to a friend who is sad about his current gf who barly gives him anything yet always complains to him about her exes who really hurt her. It unexpectedly pained me hearing him, a solid man with decensy and respect, get far less than the scum who hurt, lie and disrespect.
I started to think that while my results are great. I barly have anyone invest too much in me in comparison to what jerks get from women.
It really pisses me off that women give their all to jerks who hurt them. Yet the guys with decensy get far less + they gotta the good apple amond the so called spoiled bunch. I guess women really see men as either a challenge, ” i will fix him ” or ” boring no fun ”.
It would be so easy, so so wasy for me to start liying, be cold and even disrespectful and knowing how much easier game would be. Its like working full time job getting bare minimum wage meanwhile seeing others work half as much giving less than 2 f**ks earn far more.
It makes you wonder… why even bother? I guess my reasoning for being so called good is because i’ve been hurt alot and i dont want anyone else to go through pain. But women, deep down, despite what they say give their all to those who hurt them the most
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How is Wanted treating you lately? Are you still getting recon?
I doubt that most women are like that. This is your own observation that’s probably based on your own reality. It’s great that you’re introspecting. Your thoughts and opinions are extremely valuable. Just know that not all women are like this and you can change your reality to attract better women.
Maybe he really loves her. There is no harm in giving someone your love. People who are healthy and strong in the love area realize the power that love can have on others and can give someone their love freely and without regrets. They also know when to let someone go.
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@lrw im still struggling with wanted since its a new sub and unlike the previous onces which i have gotten to know and understand its still an ongoing process.
You are correct. Not all women are like that. I admit i have been thinking through my own expeirances and observations. Which in no way include everyone.
It just that my friend reminded me of my old self who wanted to be innocent and loved. It is, after all, a cycle where people start pure yet get hurt by someone then pass on the hurt. I suppose i was feeling “ salty “
Aside from my own morality on why i am respectful and avoid having anyone get hurt is that I do not want to pass on the cycle despite what i’ve been through. The same goes for my friends and close ones.
Thank you for your kind words.
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Loving the way you express yourself on your journey, major things are happening and your insights are great to reflect on. There is so much love coming out of your posts lately, you are on the right track. Thank you for being inspiring 
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Hi @Saiyan4Blue interesting journal!
Do you prefer wanted over the other programs in terms of seduction? And how did you get over the reconciliation did you just stop listening until it faded?
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@Houdini its still too early for me to say if i prefer wanted over the old routine. I have used Primal Seduction and Libertine since their infant stages untill i changed to Wanted.
It would seem that ZPs have a will of their own. I say that as a person who prefers to have absolute control over all aspects of life as much as humanly possible.
As much as subs have advanced. I still remeber the first few times i used Libertine when it first came out on its own. It had this magical touch where i was excited yet didnt know what to expect. Now it feels like the subs need to become stronger and stronger to recapture that magic. Its almost akin to a an addict who needs heavier doses.
That was a big realisation. The first libertine was nothing compared to how effective it is now. The only thing that changed was me. My mind wants to control it, fiqure it out and make it work at will. I have higher and higher expectations yet somewhere i have lost touch with it.
Its very werid and difficult to explain. Why was it so much easier before when i was using a far weaker version and myself having far less skill and experiance?
This is the trap where people who experianced something similar resort to thinking that the older versions were better. It is me who changed. Its like everything else where the first few 1000 dollars are the best feeling ever now they barly mean anything.
I was obtimistic, excited and open minded to new possibilities. Now i am expecting things to go a certain way otherwise its not working today. This mental trap is maze.
The solution is simple. Let go and regain that innocense. Yet its still far easier said than done. I suppose a long break is in order and im talking at least a full month off.
In a way, i am envious of newcomers to subliminals. To be openminded, excited and not knowing what to come seems to be the absolut best mental state for subliminals to preform at their best. That is what i think for now, or simply overthinking
Edit: I am talking strictly about Libertine and Primal Seduction. Diamond and Sex Mastery work regardless of what you think, do or expect.
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Indeed it would be easier by being a cold lying guy
But it would be hard for your soul since you don’t transpire any true coldness from the start
I deeply think and feel that a man can acheive even greater effect in term of attraction than the type of men you describe, even if they’re covered in womens right and left
Is it easy ? Definitly not, but the amount of growth to get there will be a source of unshackable power
Not only women but people will admire that strength
Because when the men you depict are peirced in their false veil of lies and coldness, they usually loose a lot of attraction, and if their girl stay with them, they must have either bad issues to deal with or a significant coldness themselves; usually more than the guy from what I’ve seen
But you in the other hand will go through the path of the difficulty, forging your character to greater extend, there will be no veil to always keep on, you’ll be the real deal, you’ll radiate power
And you’ll end up attracting women those types of men can’t ever have because they can feel the veil and won’t deal with that type of shit, or you’ll help someone grow stronger wich will grow loyalty to you you could never dream of
I feel you about your friend, if his relationship turn sour at some point he’ll have to grow, and either help the girl move on somehow or himself move on, both are right paths and hard
Keep the observationof yourself, it is ok to be sour, it isn’t to stay that way when it’s not you
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@Melior i get what you are saying and despite feeling sour around the time i posted that. I knew deep down i could never be like that because its easy. And that makes it worthless.
To elaborate. I have been lonlely, ignored and rejected by many girls in my teens and early 20s. For that, and many other reasons, i have worked hard on myself thinking i could meet the right woman. That if im good enough ill be ready when the right person appears.
I then came to realise that the harder i worked on myself… the less appealing most women seem long term for me. This is the sad reality when you push yourself beyond your absolut limits.
They have insecurities, trauma, fear, sociaty induced entitlment and self esteem issues. A man works hard to provide for himself and his family, a woman works hard so she needs no man. So many amazing women have that mentality which disqualifys them as long term for any man with self worth.
But i do understand them… why would they try hard at anything? Sociaty treats them as queens, their emotions are more valid than facts, they will never truly be alone with all the options they have and all they have to do is wait for the man at the finish line.
They dont appreciate authenticity despite what they say. They dont know how to deal with it because their last 3 exes hurt them.
They feel weird knowing they are wanted, appreciated and say ” you are too good for me ”
In the end, it seems that they mostly fall in love with their own invesment in someone… which is why jerks can own a womans heart 10 years after he broke it… some never truly get over that person and he becomes the rotten apple that forever ruins the rest no matter how good they are.
As most humans do, we tend to go for what is familiar instead of whats good for us. That has been my experiances with so many women i couldnt begin to count…
Through my detailed journey of this journal. I’ve only met 1 who truly was worth it and i could have had an amazing life with. But at that time i was hurt and did not want to settle. I thought if i keep working hard id meet someone even better… so i am no better than those i am critiquing…
But whos good enough for someone who truly want the other person to be happy, never lies, learns from mistakes, works harder than 90% of the population, went through hell and back without being broken? As fairytail like this sounds, this is the man i have been working twoards becoming… only to find myself alone at the top…
This is why i date around. Where deep down i would give anything to have someone who truly loves me for who i am and would do whatever it takes. I can see the red flags a mile away and boy there are pleanty.
I stopped trying along time ago… but i will always stay openminded incase i meet someone who is worth all that i am. And hope that the last heartbreak will be the last…
Ironically, i dont even think i am much of anything. Im dumb, insecure and too stubborn to give up. Yet if i do open up they lose attraction. This is where i stopped thinking. Ill just go with the flow towards the end, where ever it may be.
I am no saint and this is only one mans experiances. Not all women are like that and men have their own mess to deal with. And to be fair, a sub called Heartsong is kinda sorta out there and i’ve never gave it a thought… so i have not done all i can in anyway. I suppose i didnt get ” lucky ” yet
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Fucked up thing is I relate to so much you wrote and it’s scary. The only difference is that I rejected myself and found myself ready for good relationship when it’s perfect.
All this made feel more alone than ever. Hate it.
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Did you write in your journal that you didn’t want to settle down until you turned 35? You sound like you’re going through a transition.
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If you allow me to respond to that passionate message, at least I’d like to since I can find a lot of things I’ve been going through and meditate and meditate and meditate over
I’ve found my answer, or at least my answer to that part of ‘’ society ‘’
First before that please re-read your post every now and then because there is a lot of work to be done on it in term of growth, they are seeds of strength to cultivate in it
Right now I feel like you’re an in between state
If you re-read your post you’ ll find that there is a lot of mirroring that can be done from the female point of view on some facts, with a few adaptations anyway
You seem to be talking from an extreme point of view, extreme by it’s fatality, extreme by how it is what it is, women are confronted with the same problems on other levels, work better on putting yourself in their shoes, you’ll gain many insights and that spite will loose it’s strength, confort will come with your own answers
It is presomptuous to say that women have it easy, no one has in this reality, they have an easier time finding mate? Well yet they’re despised for it. Whatever they have easier, has consequences. Same goes for men. Men have the power to become a pillar for their family, yet it’s called nowadays as patriarchy and are despised for it.
I make classical assumptions, but there is even a whole spectrum of beings female and male Wich respond to those truth to the degree they see fit
There is literally any type of people in this world
You’re bound to meet someone for you after you’ve healed, but you have to find your answers before
My answer to that spite currently is :
Who cares,
do I care that a woman have it easier for finding a mate or a lot of them fall for assholes? Nah doesn’t change my life, I decide to not care about that part of reality, I don’t deny it, I choose to focus on what I want
I will become the pillar that I wish I had
That’s what I’ll do in this lifetime
Somewhere deep down I know that It’s the right thing
Opening up is hard? Who cares
I’ll do it as many times it’s needed
They’re ‘’ fake’’ because they don’ t say facts and tell things that statistics prove wrong? Who cares
Most females don’t work with statistics pov
Whatever stats tells, a woman can prove it wrong that’s their magic, a man will prove it right that’s theirs
I could talk for hours without end
My point is, do you
You didn’t like the spiteful yourself back then who see women that way, it will still be the case so do your best to move on
Because anyway you don’t seem to want to frequent this type of woman, it’s too easy to say ‘’ I’ve grown out of desiring most of them’’
That sound weak to me
You’ re running away from reality
Even if there is that perfect woman or one close to, do everything to meet her yet let go of that desire, you might find it in imperfection, what is ‘’ bothering to you’’ might be in fact hidden beauty
They don’ t need you? Perfect that’s work you won’t have to help get toward to, if she Trully loves you and don’t need you that’s IMO the jackpot, that woman will make you grow
Love shouldn’t be bound by a sense of lack, at least it shouldn’t stay that way, how presomptuous is it for you to want only someone who absolutely needs you, that stem from a lack, you’re the only one who should feel that way toward you, imagine how restful and safe a love without necessity could be
I hope you’ll find back your strength, it’s a processus not a definit state
Also if I sounded a bit harsh sorry that message is also for the part of myself who used to struggle on those points
I hope you won’ t mind it
It’s actually full of love
Also I’m a bit tired so I might or might not edit this post later because my thoughts are becoming foggy, so not sure I’m making sense as I’d wish
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@lrw That is my plan. Because realistically speaking around that age i would be done with the major parts of my life and be ready to start a family. That does not mean that i am closed off for love until then or i am not flexible enough to make it work 
@Melior you are 100% correct in your own view. Sadly i have yet to experinace it despite how badly i want to. Like i said its one mans experiances and my views are not extreme, they are realistic when it comes to my own experiances and what i continue to see.
Any man who was lucky enough to find true love without going through the endless pain, rejections and disapointments i’ve been through will probably think my views are extreme. Just as i see his as fairytale and wishywashy.
I never stated that womens lives were easier. The wise, the strong, the dumb and the weak suffer the same for different reasons. Everyone has struggles others might never fully comprehend.
Ill end this with a quote from Chris Rock: ” only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally,” whereas “a man is only loved under the condition that he provide something ”
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Thanks for this lil gem. Definitely struck a chord in me based on my issue with my exgf and the back and forth. It’s me, no self worth. Yes…
Thank you
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Hum saying that you disregard potential to growth, the view is extreme not you for having it.
Aren’t you like having a lot of success with women?
I don’t think my post sounds like a fairytale, it looked quite hard to swallow to me…
I find this quote to be quite egotistical since it’s simply not true, I used to stand by it so I understand, I still have it stored on insta 
Dogs are loved if they behave, children if they’re not a hell 24/7,women have a lot of weight on their shoulder to be loved too… They’re expected a lot of things and nned to provide in their own way, yourself expect a lot of things from them so it’s a bit paradoxal
Being loved for who you are strictly is an illusion
No matter what gender
Are you going emo? 
Half joking here
Anyway, hopefully at some point you’ll understand not only the words but the deeper meaning from them, I think you will
Also sorry for posting a bit much in your journal back and forth, if it bothers you, I’ll stop
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Are you still getting recon from Wanted? If you are, man, you’re probably going to execute it like a rock star. You were already rotating 3 girls at a time, so I was surprised when you mentioned that you were running Wanted. Now to hear that you got all that rec from it. It’s both surprising and admirable because of all these feelings and thoughts coming to the surface, tbh.
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Imagine him making a ZPT2 custom with WANTED 
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