Exploring Love, Sex and Attraction?! - The Libertine Ultima experiance

[Saiyan4Blue]

Unrelated to subs… i have watched the trilogy of movies called zeitgest… it started conspirasy theory-esuqe and made tons of solid points considering i have whitnesed the destruction of my country first hand in 2003. Without making it about the conspiracy theories themselves or getting political about it… around the second movie i started realising something… wether true or falsy, partially true or partially false or completly in a completly grey area independant from judjment…

Even if it was completly fictional, for me it was a highly educational experiance about what the extent of how far people can go. And looking at the mirror i am no different than anyone else. Here i am, using subliminals to better myself… to gain an edge over everyone else who isnt using them. I am doing also doing whats best for me to be better than the next guy.

Just like a corporation who operates sweatshops to gain advantage… even though those two things are vastly different the motivation behind them is the same… to profit which in a since makes me no better and a hypocrite to judge.

What i got out of it is that its what humans do regardless of who is doing what. If the roles were reversed and given enough time the same thing will happen in a similar way by someone else just as easily. By coming to this realisation its not about stoping the supposed “ bad guy “ and more like what made him the way he is… how am i different from him? What he teach me about myself?

I started realising the state of the world, the horrors i whitnessed and the pain and suffering every human goes through one way or another is in essence what makes us human… i could have been 1 billion other people depending on my enviorment, who raised me, where i was born, who i met, what i heard and every experiance i ever had.

In a weird way. I am 99% the same as everyone else on the planet. Its a refreshing feeling of peace knowing there is no real enemy. There are no bad guys or even good guys… we are all both at every level and depending on the view point of things…
everyone is right since there is no absolute objectivity… everything is trulely subjective. Its the trying to do better and be better that gives meaning to life in whatever degree that entails.

After that realisation… its gonna be very difficuly for me to objectively hate or dislike anyone unless its deeply personal. I truely believe that the creator of those movies wanted this message to get across. It felt like it was more about human nature and the various ways to self persevere rather than pointing fingers. Not to judge but to understand… which is the first step

Years apon years of anger, dissapointment, failoures, fustrations and burdens dissipated. Because i no longer care about the question i have always asked myself… why me, what did i do to desurve this. How can i be better so i wont feel like this again.

I dont care about those questions anymore. By understanding why the world and by extention why everyone is in pain i realise that it fundamentally starts with me. And its up to me to end it and see the world with new eyes. The world by itself is a reflection of everything i am, can be and can do regardless if i want to or not . I dont know if this makes any sense or why i am even posting about it. It just felt like letting it out.

[SaintSovereign]

@Saiyan4Blue

Edit: Just found out on the Libertine ZP thread that its invompatible with Primal Seduction…

Who said it was incompatible? Libertine is an attractant, PS pushes you to go out and talk to women. It’s very synergistic unless you’re the type of person that has a problem speaking to women, then you might face recon.

[Trader]

@SaintSovereign

It’s very synergistic unless you’re the type of person that has a problem speaking to women

Khan1 or Regen would help pretty quick with that, n’est-ce pas?

[Seeker]

This may be the exchange in question:

@rajeshwer

@SaintSovereign

That’s in Primal Seduction. Libertine is an attractant. If we added both, you’d get R E C O N C I L I A T I O N.

So that means
Libertine and PS won’t go well together ?
May be I misunderstood this altogether.
Someone can throw some light on this ?

@RockyHandsome

@rajeshwer i think what Saint is saying is they are both incompatible so do not run them together. A better option would be to run wanted and libertine.

[Theacrobat]

The question refers to adding some module or scripting ( for approaching women) within Libertine that would make the sub a sure way to get Recon.

[SaintSovereign]

Yes, we were referring to “combining” both titles into one. That has a much different effect than running them separately. The Love Bomb in Chosen From Within feels and works differently than when you run it standalone.

[Trader]

@SaintSovereign

The Love Bomb in Chosen From Within

I spaced on CFW having Love Bomb haha. So stacking LB with CFW would make that part more pronounced, but also be kinda redundant.

[SaintSovereign]

@Trader

I spaced on CFW having Love Bomb haha. So stacking LB with CFW would make that part more pronounced, but also be kinda redundant.

Yes, standalone LB will synergize with CFW’s LB, but will also have it’s own effect.

[Saiyan4Blue]

I tried Sex Mastery XP and all i can say it does what it says it does instantly. From my own experiance with Diamond ZP with male enhancment. I have yet to try the Diamond ZP, without male enahncment version and i can say that for me… Sex Mastery ZP is the fastedt acting and immediatly effective subliminal i have ever used.

Its all very simple… i was feeling it while listening and long after. While having sex i lasted 2 hours and i was very dominant yet suprisingly patient and in controll. I could go at it hard for 15 min at the time untill i start feeling numb but with a small 3 min pause switchting to foreplay i was back at it.

I felt like expermanting with moves, different ways to touch and apply things i normally and the lady i was with was the most wet she has ever been with me. She ended up immobalized after having a minute long orgasm…

Having the moves and experiance comes with time. But having the ideal mindset and your own sense of controll are 2 different things that are more conditional than with experiance.

So im just gonna reccomene Sex Mastery ZP to anyone who hasnt tried it yet. With Diamond i felt like relentless but with sex mastery i was a proffessional pornstar.

This for the first time in my life i got a sex injury afterwards… my d1ck had a small cut from repeated friction.

Im still feeling its effects 5 days later and the girl i am seeing is texting 12 times a day asking if i can go to her or if she could come over.

With this alone i feel like game is an overkill. Just this alone is enough to keep anyone hooked.

[ichigo]

Sounds good, thanks for the report. Which one would you say gives you the hardest erection between Diamond and Sex Mastery?

[Saiyan4Blue]

The best way to explain the difference is with an analogy.

Diamond ZP ( male enhancment version ) gives you access to a temoprary power up. Its like the adrenaline and blood pump while working out.

Sex Mastery ZP allows for to access the powerup while maintaining full controll it doesnt even feel like a power up… its just the new normal.

The nerdy way to explain it is that Diamond ZP with male enhancment is like going super sayian.

Sex Mastery ZP is like staying in base form meanwhile yet accessing the full effect without needing to transform.

[Saiyan4Blue]

I used an unholy stack of 4 zp subliminals. yesterday i used primal seduction ZP and Libertine ZP. Today i used Sex Mastery ZP and Diamond ZP. And the amalgamated result was:

I have never wanted anything as much in my life as i wanted sex today. So i hit up the kinkiest one night stand i know. She is very sexual and loves to please and to let go…

The sex was indescribable. The 90 min we spent felt like an eternity. I was both the most passionste lover and freak i could ever be, at the same time. It felt so trippy and blissful on a spiritual level i couldnt speak a single word of concentrate on anything. I just was and there was nothing else…

She came so many times i lost count she started crying and didnt stop for a while. and just hugged me… i stopped to see if shes ok and she just kept saying keep going and kept on crying, laughing and moaning… It wasnt just the sex but the intimiacy with it healed her in a way i could not comprehend.

After that we bonded deeply. What i feel for her is beyond love, understanding or anything else… its nothing that simple. Its alomst like she became a part of me on some level i dont understand.

Shes cute but not really my type and we dont have much compatibility but after this she feels like someone i have known for several life times. She got the heightened intimicy and the orgasms but it wasnt the for her as it was for me. The ZPs put me in a state no one can understand or feel unless they were on it.

Its the unholy mixture of subs and the trippy sex. The only thing i could compare it to is being on coke, steroids, viagra and ectacy all at once from what i understand about them.

Needless to say i dont reccomend it to anyone and most certainly not 4 ZP in a short span. The guidelines says 3 ZPs if you really want to, 2 in the same day and the 3rd in the day after…

The lust and desire made by this it is more uncomfortable than reliving your cringiest moments on repeat for full day. I didnt want a sexual relese i needed to let go in every way imaginable and give my all to someone.

And you cant un-feel and un-remeber what happened. Statistically speaking i have ruined sex for her forever. Nothing could ever top what she had because it was just that good. Wether its a good or bad thing is up for interpretation.

If i knew this would happen i would not have tried it. I did this out of curiosity and taking full responcibility on my own. This post is not meant for anyone to do this, its a testament to the power of ZP subliminals.

Cant wait for more wealth subs to get upgraded as well… this will get mainstream sooner than later and once it does everyone will be on it and the advantage of being the only person on subs will be equalised.

Every one should treat Subclubs subliminals like its bitcoin 2013 knowing what we know now.

And this isnt me hyping subliminals up… i unironically make sure that every post i make at most 1/3 of what it actually is in order to not raise expectations so people can Interpret this however they like with a sound/calm mind. I post as if the 20 year old is reading it telling him to do his best and whats out there. I am paying him back for going through everything i went through in order to become who i am. And paying it forward… out of pure selfishnes. Nothing more nothing less

[Theacrobat]

Interesting as always.

How would you compare the aura activation from Qv2 versus ZP?

Faster, more profound, totally different?

[Saiyan4Blue]

@Theacrobat QV2 felt like it worked when certain conditions were met. It requires effort in doing x in order to gain the results from the x subliminal

ZP is like a second nature and works automatically while barly requiring any energy.
For example i am an INTJ but while on Primal Seduction ( outer game + inner game ) i can be social however long i want without any brunout. Normally i would need some alone time to recharge yet i felt like i was recharging while in the few seconds i wasnt talking to someone untill its my turn again. ZP subs are so effective its rideculus.

[Ice]

@Saiyan4Blue

For example i am an INTJ but while on Primal Seduction ( outer game + inner game ) i can be social however long i want without any brunout. Normally i would need some alone time to recharge yet i felt like i was recharging while in the few seconds i wasnt talking to someone untill its my turn again.

That’s exactly how I’ve felt with Daredevil ZP. I’ve had a ridiculous amount of human interaction this past month, which would normally cause burnout but I’ve found an immense social endurance I didn’t know I possessed.

Really cool to hear you’re having this same effect with Primal Seduction as well.

[Geoff]

Hey, great journal. I’m 1 week old newbie but I have a random question.

How tall are you?

[lrw]

Any updates about this girl? Did you see or hear from her yet?

[Saiyan4Blue]

@irw yeah i have been seeing her since then. We met few times now. She acts normal while texting and seeing me but as soon as we are alone she gets very cuddly and sexual.

Its a unique situation that i can best describe like its my first ever relationship with all the affection.

[Saiyan4Blue]

@Geoff i am 185 cm tall, i dont know how much that is in feet. I would be lying if i said height doesnt matter but its definitly not as much as people think it does.

For me i never had its benifits upfront.

[Saiyan4Blue]

Just fot referance i would like to re state my opinion about what i said earlier on SM ZP and Diamond ZP, how they operate and why Sex Mastery ZP was better for me.

In hindsight i wasnt wrong about what i said however it wasnt entirely accurate. After re reading their descriptions and remebering their effects seperatly and when i mixed them i can say that i know the difference between them.

They both aim for the same goal yet the method of achieving it is different. Therefor both cant be compared fairly to each other.

Lets take a simple pistol analogy. Sex Mastery ZPs goal is for the gun to do extra damage. The way it achieves this is by modifying the entire pistol design so it is better suited for the job.

Diamond ZPs the same however it does this by simply modifying the bullets in order to do more damage.

Both have a similar goal but thats where the similarities end. So for me it seemed that i got better results on Sex Mastery ZP was because i needed improvments on the pistol. And i needed less on the bullets

And just for fun, Libertine ZP is the enchantment/rune you add to the pistol so it does extra magical damage. Primal Seduction ZP is for the John Wick level of handling a gun.