Exploring Love, Sex and Attraction?! - The Libertine Ultima experiance

I’ve heard from one of the Neville modern teachers say that what you feel about your SP (specific person) they also feel about you.

To add my own two cents here, if you can get to the place of being okay with our without. Nonchalance. Then from there you’d just know that whatever your desired version of reality is so. It just takes practice if you’re so inclined. Persist until your desired reality comes to pass. That’s my understanding of it. So simple yet even those of us who love to study these things, have we completely mastered it yet? Or is it more of intellectual fancy.

That’s also why Neville Recommends you get to the ‘I am’ state. Before you do your imagine the feeling of the wish fulfilled stuff.

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@Ambrose

Please refrain from selling products on the forum.

in zen, they call it non-attachment, I am influencing her , some maybe after a while she will feel the same , like b4 .

Using diamond once a week seems to have done the trick for me. I have had sex 4 times in 1 week and everytime it felt like i could finish whenever i want with full control. Not only that but my head is perfectly clear on navigating the many obsticales before the sex and how to set the perfect mood when i lead and they follow happily and let go.

The new diamond is like an solid in the middle of a storm where many things could go wrong or out of control. The first diamond is like a rocket that leaves a great impact. This new diamond is like a satelite controlled missle strike in which it is percise, masterful and most definatly devistating

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Nice to hear that. So you are listening to three titles overall, two regularly and Diamond once a week, right?

@Saiyan4Blue have you been listening to the new Primal Seduction ZP and Libertine ZP? If so, what has your experience been like with those compared to previous versions?

I feel like bursting into tears several times since running ZPs, is that recon ?

is it possible to create a sleep sub, to sleep deeply , without waking up in the middle of the night please ?

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Not using libertine at the moment. Only diamond once a week and other wealth subs

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@Ambrose i suggest you raise a ticket for this request.

that would sell millions !

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will give it a go, would a ZP version be good ?

Were you running PSQv2 Or PS Ultima at that time?

6 hours without recon?? Amazing!

That was like 6 months ago. Right now its just wealth subs and diamond zp here and there.

Which wealth subs are you running and can you share your experience with them?
Especially curious if you are using Emperor ZP.

Just found out that some titles got upgraded to ZP. Hmm seeing Libertine and Primal Seduction on ZP makes me feel like going on another seduction spree

Edit: Just found out on the Libertine ZP thread that its invompatible with Primal Seduction…

What the hell… that was my go to combo all the way to QV2… i dont get why are they incompatible now all of the sudden…

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I have been using Diamond ZP since it came out. At first i tried it once a day untill some suggested that lowering to few loops a week is better so i have been doing that.

So far my size has by 0,3 centimeter. And the sex has been good but i am still adjusting to the ZP format. I feel like there is alot more power in there that i have yet to tap into…

It would also seem that my usual method of “ applying “ the subliminal effect is not working. ZP is a different kind of beast… I am not sure but i will try different ways of applying it. My gut feeling says that i should just let go and let it auto pilot itself.

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That’s very curious. Because you have said that imagining/visualize sending your aura/laser beam of lust towards your victim/ target, had make the job many times.
Not the same effect on ZP?
This should be an INTJ issue… I am not gaining effects of ZP easily. Perhaps, I am a hard gainer and I must listen every day.

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Well the visualization is something i use when running Libertine. As for the other part i try to go inside my brain, thoughts and emotions and explore what and how they operate relating to the sub i am using. Basically i try to find a way to make the sub work better for me.

I am currently using diamond ZP once a week and othrr wealth subs. I have yet to try the new libertine

Edit: Please refrain from over exposure to ZP. I read the Libertine ZP journal yesterday and it seems that there were 7 and 15 min versions as well but duo to saftey concerns they were not relesed. So its things like this that make them nerf the products or refrain from releaing their superior counterpart.

As for being INTJ its a blessing in disguise when it comes to subliminals since no one else would bother go as far or try as much without the analytical mind

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