Experimental Roadmaps Project

I want to start building some roadmaps for these titles. It’s a call to move beyond stack based thinking, and into multi month/multi year planning.

One way to look at it, is like a college degree but with subliminals.

College degrees all have certain courses in common, optional electives, and a major concentration that has a bunch of mandatory courses that everybody must take.

This is what I mean by “roadmap” building multi month/multi year roadmaps, complete with optional (elective) slots along the journey with the intention of bringing about a unique yet somewhat predictable outcome in people’s lives.

This goes beyond stack based thinking and gets us into massive, utterly holistic development with an emphasis on a certain domain of life.

I think we finally have enough titles available.

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This got me thinking. In university here sometimes there’s something called a base year. A year before uni where you take ”foundational courses” that you might have missed in high school for the program.

In my head I’m thinking self-worth/self-love, else there’s risk you’ll chase these phantoms that will never fill that hole and abyss within.

Perhaps even Genesis, Lovebomb and Art Of Joy. I don’t know.

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100% same here. Genesis, Genesis Mogul, and Sanguine the Elixir come to mind as a foundational entry level stack.

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I’ve been thinking the same thing recently. Though I want to see how rotating new subs willl listening patterns before I do any serious planning.

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We were actually thinking of doing this as well. We would love community feedback or ideas on roadmaps. Gives us as feel of expectations.

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I mean there have been some tips, hints from you guys.

Like mentioning the roadmap to aeon, or the pro tips on genesis. But more fleshed out. :clap: more detail.

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This is what I’m thinking for the foundation period.

Genesis months 1-3

Genesis + Genesis Mogul months 4-6

Genesis + Genesis Mogul + Sanguine: The Elixir months 7-9

I’ve noticed that healing seems more effective after a certain level of growth on subs. Hence, why healing would come last in the above protocol.

My theory is that running non-healing titles exposes us to blockages that we might not be able to deal with, which makes the healing more effective when it happens because there is already the awareness of the issues that need to be dealt with.

Alternatively, someone could just run the full stack for 3-9 months.

I don’t think Genesis for 9 months would be necessary, as a big part of the scripting on that is helping you figure out what you actually need, and as a side effect helping you figure out which sub would actually fit your current goals rather than staying on Genesis.

Every time I’ve ran OG Genesis it ended up being for 2 weeks or less, as I quickly discovered what path I wanted to journey on and found subs that more closely fit that direction for myself

Nonetheless I do agree that it is an awesome sub with really great foundational features. It’s kind of like AoH meets Ascension Lite

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You’re probably right, 9 months of Genesis Mogul could be good for many though, and a couple months on sanguine could also be a good idea.

9 months before starting the main journey is a tough sell, but I’m wondering if a rock solid foundation would help a lot of people.

One important thing to note here is that universities don’t force you down a specific path.

They have some mandatory credits you need to take, but the huge majority of your degree is actually elective - you choose what to specialize in, just making sure you have a base.

So what are the fundamentals, what is the core curriculum, and what are the extra specializations/upgrades.

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How I’m envisioning it is that you have a couple titles 1-3 that serve as “freshman year”.

This is the mandatory stuff that everybody needs to do in order to earn a degree. Using that metaphor for this project, what are the universal titles that everybody would benefit from starting with? Titles that may help people deal with issues early on that could create problems later while also preparing them for Artisan/Multistage Titles

Then you get into the “core curriculum” that is probably 1 or 2 mandatory titles, with a third “elective spot”.

Rinse and repeat depending on the level of refinement needed, what your “specialty” is, what your aiming to build toward, and individual needs.

For example let’s say it’s someone that wants to build toward mastering Stark Black over a couple years.

Phase 1:

Genesis + Sanguine: The Elixir

Choose 1
Genesis Mogul or EoG ST1

Timeline TBD. Most colleges these day give the option of shorter 8 weeks semesters that are more intense and difficult or longer 16 week semesters.

Phase 2:

New Stark

Choose 1

Genesis Mogul or EoG ST1 or EoG ST2

Choose 1

Limitless, Beyond Limitless, Quantum Limitless ST1

And on it goes.

The exact answer to that question, is that it depends entirely on what someone’s road map is, and what they are trying to achieve with it.

Some roadmaps might be more strict (similar to how engineering/science degrees are pretty strict), others might be looser.

I would imagine that roadmaps for maximum career advancement would be more strict than, say a roadmap for maximizing one’s spiritual path.

I think after the “introductory phase” ideally people would have gained enough self-awareness to know what path they want/need to go down.

Some might go into deep healing with Dragon Reborn, others might build their way up to maximizing Khan and EoG, others might go right into Alchemist, others Quantum Limitless.

The project is less about “telling people how to do it best” and more about trying to set people up for maximum success.

Many of us have run a title, realized that it was too advanced for us, and then fallen into stack hopping trying to fix the missing links. Though that would still happen, with roadmaps (even if they err on being “too easy”) I think people might get better results, and maximize their long term results.

Ultimately, nobody needs to use a roadmap, but it’s nice to be able to cut out the noise and trust that if someone sticks to the roadmap, they will see some pretty amazing changes.

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I mentioned it here

But a sort of core 101 course, if we’re going with the college analogy thing would be good. Just bare bone fundamentals that aren’t too deep or complex that applies to every title after.

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There’s a lot of really good introductory titles. One of the best things about first year courses in uni is that they’re often very exciting and give you a high-level understanding of the cutting edge info for that subject of academia.

I’d say titles like Genesis and sanguine are more like preparatory courses that you take in high school to prepare you for university rather than actual
University level courses.

Some people need those prep courses and take those, and some people don’t.

First year titles IMHO are titles that cover everything at a high-level, give you a good foundation of development, and also get you results quickly, so that you’re excited to continue taking the curriculum and you see why/how you’ll benefit by doing so.

The best thing to do to get someone new to subliminals interested in them quickly is give them the easiest to run, most positive results, least recon title to give them a positive experience from running subs. Chosen makes you happy, Earth relaxes your body, True Social makes you magnetic, and the results are easy, positive, and uncomplicated. When they’re ready, they can go deeper with harder titles, but at the introductory phase it’s more important to have as much fun as possible while learning rather than learning as much as possible.

Ascended Mogul has been and always will be the most complete and all in one entry-level wealth title. It’s just not updated so we don’t talk about it much anymore. Mobile is certainly good too, but ascended Mogul balances out wealth, specifically beliefs with personal beliefs about being the type of person that is fully ready to live into his financial vision.

For romance titles… probably primal… for a similar reason that it’s not purely about sexual beliefs. It’s a fully comprehensive masculinity title to prepare you to live into your sexuality fully and benefit every other area of your life while doing so

You could go on and on with categories.

There’s so many goals that somebody can have with subliminals just like how there’s so many different options out there for getting your degrees… and like university, you often take similar courses to people that are an entirely different majors, at the same time, but in a different order than them for a different reason.

We don’t really have to get this complicated with metaphors, though, being more clear about which titles are foundational for other titles would give people more than enough information to be able to make their own choices regarding their personal growth.

With so many subliminals on the main page now, there is more need than ever to have resources dedicated to expanding on how the titles all fit together instead of each title just being marketed in a vacuum like they are right now.

The articles that the founders have written comparing titles like the world to power, the art of war, and hero have been a huge leap forward towards that goal.

I saw a note recently comparing earth to GLM that Saint posted on the forum, and it was extremely helpful and insightful for me to understand each title individually by comparing and contrasting them against each other. I feel strongly that more comparisons like that need to be made, publicly, not just on the forum, to really help people understand the titles within the context of which title would be best to run for them, when they have options to choose between.

So what are the preparatory subliminals. Genesis, sanguine/elixir, true social, the art of happiness and joy, ascension, limitless, beyond limitless, limitless executive, paragon, paragon sleep, spartan, mogul, ascended mogul,

and you could also argue that for someone with an advanced enough mindset that chosen, seductress, emperor, Stark, mind’s eye, Renaissance man, and LoTS or TLTB: Earth could make the “foundational” list too for people who really know what they want.

What are the first year titles? See above for all of the titles that could also be considered foundational - they’re definitely first year.

For those that have done a solid run of preparatory subliminals, especially Genesis or something similar for 3-6+ months, who they know they’re ready, they could also do an accelerated preparation to get started with multi stager/artisinal titles as fast as possible.

I like the idea of combining any category-specific title with Genesis to round out the development.

For dating, running wanted or primal as prep for Khan or Wanted Black would be the priority.

For wealth, Emperor or Stark or Ascended Mogul to prepare for EOG.

Chosen, Love Bomb, LBFH, etc., to prepare for the multitude of spiritual titles that are multistagers.

What are the second year titles? This is generally where “healing” comes into play. Or manifestation. Or dedication to a multistager. Not too early but not too late.

And third/fourth year titles are those completed multistagers, advanced artisinal titles, and the ability to stack multiple advanced titles together.

It’s usually helpful to listen to subliminals of similar but not identical difficulties.

If you’re foundational, stick to 1-2 foundational titles.

If you’re first year, listen to 1-2 first year titles and 1-2 foundational titles.

If you’re second year, listening to a second year titles alongside a foundational/first-year one.

Etc.

Deepening the existing foundations while slowly expanding your horizons and tackling more advanced material without sacrificing the results you can already get more easily based on applying what you already know.

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This is pretty much already how this community advises people.

It completely misses the point of a multi-year roadmap

Blame myself though, I tend to not be very specific, that’s on me.

Im not talking about listening guidelines or general advice about what title people should start with. Pretty much everything you’ve said is common knowledge.

I’m talking about big, multi-year, multi-title roadmaps that can take an average Joe, to extraordinary through multiple titles etc.

For instance, the Aeon roadmap, that’s a great example of a basic roadmap that could be expanded upon and would probably take an average Joe 2+ years before they are done with Aeon.

Now how long until they are really executing Aeon at a high level?

If someone had a good roadmap, they could probably not just run Aeon, but get themselves to a level where they could run Aeon at a high level.

I digress

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What about a visual version of subliminals for hearing impaired people.

I’m also curious if it could have increased effectiveness for anyone with a greater visual learning capacity than auditory.

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