EXPERIMENTAL Microloop / ZPU Listening Instructions

Please there’s need to elaborate more on these instructions please,

  1. While counting the 30days did you include the rest days or it’s 30active listening days along with 30 rest days in between?
  2. If someone is running a dense stack e.g a custom of khan st4 and wanted zp and stacking the custom with Quantum limitless stage 1, does this instructions also apply?

“After 30 listening days a “washout” is required. This means after 30 days of active listening (don’t count the rest days), stop all input from subliminal audio for 5 days”

So it’s like 30 listening days + 30 rest days in between listening days.

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@SaintSovereign

I copy Greenman (Thank you Greenman) listening days and ask these 2 questions:

  1. If we have 3 titles + Aacension Chamber stack. Do we listen to the 3rd boosting title + Ascension Chamber once a week like old 21-day cycle?
  2. Let say on day 59, we listen to 3 minutes without recon. After 5 rest days, on day 67, do we listen to 3 minutes or reset to 30 seconds and increase again in new 30-listening-day cycle?

Much thank

If I have been doing full loops of the same sub for the past year, should I also start micro looping .

@SaintSovereign

Think of these guidelines as generic instructions intended to fit the greatest number of potential cases.

In order to further refine the instructions, the next variable you pay attention to is:

RECONCILIATION.

If you follow the instructions and do not experience Recon then proceed as instructed.

If you are following the instructions and you do experience recon, then you can downshift by either

  1. reducing loop time(s)

or

  1. adding additional rest days.

Recon tells you if you need to downshift.

Decreasing loop length and Increasing rest days are how you downshift.

Other than that, just follow the generic progression (and put your primary focus onto the real-world processes that you’re cultivating).

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I guess people who love to rush through stages or quickly jump from one sub to the other aren’t going to love these new guidelines. :laughing:

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For sure!

Me Im happy about the guidelines, I was thinking the other today, why do I have to stop at day 21, I want to go longer.

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You mean because a basic play-period/play-term is now about 60 days?

Also if I’m reading into this correctly, it does seem like micro loops are indeed meant to eventually get you to listen to the full 15m without recon.

My same thought when I read thru the new listening instruction. New listening instruction makes you stick to the stack for 2 months

Personally, I’d say that it allows or enables you to stick to the stack for 2 months.

But think about it: if micro-loops are a thing. So too can be ‘micro-’ or ‘partial-play periods’.

The ultimate standard is not the instructions, it is the desired outcomes in your life.

If you buy a fancy new car with amazing fuel efficiency, and then choose (for some reason) to drive to visit your next-door neighbor instead of just walking over, then, when you get there (15 seconds later), yes, turn off the car and get out. You’ve arrived.

When you get to your destination, get out the car.

But for those taking longer trips, you can now drive longer before you need to refill the gas tank.

It’s a win-win.

Which I am very happy about. I usually stick to my stacks for a long time anyway.

I’m all for it but the million dollar question here is, are these new listening guidelines for ZPU only titles or all titles?
I know name of the thread says “ZPU listening instructions” but just want to ask anyway.

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I may try this. I feel like I’m stagnating on full loops and need a reset. I think there will be greater change and the momentum I am craving because I’ll have 3-6 months of subliminals integrating while I have my microloops :tea: 🫖 . I’m just a lil hardheaded and will run everything 15 mins all the time.

Just a lil hardheaded 🤏🏾

🤌🏾

I figure something like Emperor Daddy with its subconscious and life history mining features will help unleash and integrate these long processing subliminals.

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Interesting I was just thinking about this exact approach yesterday and now suddenly a thread about it surfaces, very odd.

One question though, if one has two programs in the stack does he split them in different days or combine them on the listening day?

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A follow-up question to this

What seems to matter more, longer loops or repetitive exposure?

For ease of use, I listen to 3 subs in one day. (Disclaimer; not recommended in the previous listening instructions). I can handle 3x15 with an 1:5 rest ratio (3 subs, 15 minutes - 1 day listening, 5 days rest) I can not handle 3x15 1:1. - Am I better off doing 3x3 at a 1:1, or 3x15 1:5.

To me the limit I’ve stumbled upon has not been recon, but overload. I’m not sure if I could handle 3x7 1:1, but I guess that’s something to test. 3x7 1:2 might work.

I’m aware it’s probably individual. If you’ve run a sub for 2 years, you probably gain more from 15m loops than if you’re just starting out and doing 3min many times - mainly wondering if you guys have noticed anything more concrete than my theoretical ideas.

I do think extending a cycle to 30 listening sessions (60 days at this new schedule) is a good idea.

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More repetition is much better than overload with long breaks, it’s well known doing something regularly has great impact over time.

For your case doing 3x5 or 3x7 at 1:2 or 1:3 sounds much more effective than your current schedule if you really want to stick to 3 subs a day.

I do 2xXamount on 1:1 and it’s just perfect.

I never think of washout but I get no over exposure whatsoever because I adjust loop length or reduce to only one sub for the day when necessary, I only take a few days washout occasionally at random.

The main thing for me is to make the experience as smooth and integrated in my life as possible, if there’s slight disruption, I take note and adjust on the fly, if it’s recon I just ride it out and might adjust depending on the intensity of recon, I usually enjoy recon, but I’m very used to the uncomfortable pain of inner transformation.

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Yes I totally agree on this. More repetitions for a longer cycle is far more beneficial to progression than doing big sense powerful loops with washouts in between. The latter only causes major bouts of mental tension and overexposure for me.

Consistent repetitions over a fair enough timeframe, like say 2-3 months and then a proper washout seems to be the way to go, by that time you have integrated a big portion of the scripting within your subconscious and laid a certain base and foundation with it that can run on its own, you can still run the loops to grow that structure even more but now you have come to a point where at least some structure has been integrated and manifested within your own mind.

If you do one big loop and take 5 says off your conscious and unconscious minds instantly start to reconcile what the hell is going on, because the subconscious has literally zero structure to fall back on, unless you ran that program for a considerate amount of time in the past.

This is my whole theory behind it. Building any new kind of unconscious structure takes a lot of time and repetition. Because it will relate to experiences and will build memories around it and neurologically will connect all these experiences and memories to the program like neurolinguistic programming sort of.

I don’t think this has been asked yet, but once you have completed your 30 day active listening cycle, then a 5 day washout, do you then start your next cycle back at 30 seconds and work your way back up to 15 minutes even though you are on the same stack as your previous cycle?

To me it seems that the instructions say that once you reach 15 minute loops for each listening day that you stay at 15 minutes loops (unless you hit recon of course) no matter how many 30 day cycles you do, until you change your stack. Say once you go to stage 2 of DDR, you start back at 30 seconds because it is new.

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