Recon from stage 2 is NASTY. Yesterday was my first day with it. I’m questioning all of my motivations, dropping into nihilism pit. As a result, energy for anything productive is quite low.
But it’s fine. I’m managing to find the solutions for the problems that subliminals bring to surface.
Khan ST2 right?
yes
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saving for when in recon
I feel the most congruent with this stackp.
those are very interesting posts. Even though I can’t say that I’m currently deeply pondering on things like reality itself, or other metaphysical questions, I’ve done so a lot in the past. As for right now, it feels sorted out for me. I’m still very curious to try reducing exposure so much
I remember some users had good results of running their stack once per week. I’m going to try it as well in my next cycle.
Third day of washout. Big recon, big doubts, big productivity loss. Somehow my productivity is high when I have more exposure, but at the same time I almost physically feel getting closer and closer to burnout. Almost as if the productivity is some fight or flight response result
With little exposure, recon there’s less recon but also less productivity - and I’m not sure what to do with it.
The main recon culprit is Khan ST2, it seems. I almost want to run away from it lol - I don’t want to think what it makes me think, I’m afraid of journaling it (I’ve made like 10x less entries than with previous stage - literally when I sit down to journal, my brain just blocks and I’m physically exhausted after it lol), I make insane efforts to avoid escapism. ST2 kicked my ass hard, to the point where I’m questioning whether my deepest aspirations are genuine or not. A lot of work is needed here. But it’s rewarding: I’m now closer to knowing what I truly desire and how to build my life in the most productive and enjoyable way for that. I’ll definitely be coming back to this stage, maybe even the next cycle (instead of progressing)
On the bright side, Mogul and LotS don’t seem to produce much recon. Reducing exposure for LotS to 3 minutes was a mistake because I only started getting less results (less workout motivation, less dieting motivation, not really feeling excited for the gym after reducing exposure), while recon is unchanged.
Last listening loop of Mogul was 6 minutes. Not a lot of obvious results from it but I haven’t built up the pathways enough yet. I’ll be playing with exposure to find sweet spot, hopefully getting more productivity/motivation
@Sub.Zero hey, do I understand it right that if I get my exposure right (very little low-level recon, no disturbance of sleep, no insane dreams, etc.) - I should just have a constant flow of greater and greater results without recon?
I did 3 minutes of Mogul and LotS (taking a break from Khan), and had the symptoms of low level recon, described by you (dreams, worsened sleep, relying on subs too much (wanting to listen more) and some agitation). Next time I’ll try playing 1.5 min of each
That’s generally correct. However, I noticed that subliminal reconciliation is not a linear progression toward greater and greater results but rather a cycle. This means that even after experiencing a spike, it doesn’t guarantee you won’t go through another spike, even if you were off subs. However, in general, low-level reconciliation tends to subside gradually, and, simultaneously, the reconciliation blanket that smothers the results gets lifted.
I noticed that running micro loops can cause spikes of acute recon; however, it shortens the overall reconciliation cycle. So, shortening your loops will help you get through recon quicker, but it doesn’t necessarily make the experience smoother.
Glossary:
Reconciliation is the process induced by subliminal input.
Recon refers to the side effects of reconciliation.
What will make the experience smoother then?
The quickest fix is the new recon tech, which helps smooth out reconciliation significantly by allowing you to deal with recon much faster—often on the spot. However, as you know, only a few titles include this technology, so managing recon—especially low-level recon—can still be challenging. Recon tends to be unpredictable and is often overlooked.
The most reliable approach is to monitor your reconciliation and adjust your subliminal exposure accordingly. Low-level recon is a clear sign that your mind needs more time to process the scripting, so it’s important to give it that time. Increasing physical activity, practicing relaxation techniques, maintaining a proper diet, staying hydrated, and getting enough sleep can all make a big difference and smooth out the whole process.
I see. Thank you for the explanation
Will be experimenting further. It’s my rest day after those 3 min loops and I’m not feeling any recon. In fact, I’m getting desired results from Mogul (increased motivation and productivity, specifically); can’t say anything about LotS yet
In this case, I probably experienced a spike of acute recon. I should probably continue with 3 mins? Or maybe decrease it a bit, to like 2-2.5 mins, not cut in half?
It’s hard to tell, as reconciliation is mostly unpredictable—as I mentioned before. This means that even though 3 minutes worked for you this time, it might not work as well the next time you run your sub. As I said earlier, it’s all about monitoring your reconciliation cycle and managing low-level recon when it arises.
My guess is that 3 minutes might be the minimum you can currently handle, and it would be a good idea to gradually increase your exposure—perhaps once a week.
From what I’ve observed, the longer the loops you run, the more rest you need, and the higher the “risk” of experiencing low-level recon. The sweet spot is a theoretical point where there’s little to no low-level recon and results are consistent. However, this sweet spot isn’t static—it’s dynamic. That’s why continuous monitoring of your reconciliation cycle and actively managing recon is essential.
Thank you, I appreciate all the insights!
I’ve updated my thread about low-level recon thanks to your questions—so you’re welcome, broski.
Got complimented on the streets for my looks. Hasn’t happened ever in my life lol
That’s after 1 cycle of LotS
I’m waking up multiple times per night with 3 min Mogul + 3 min LotS. Also, waking up not really feeling my best. Still, I’m so enthusiastic and productive, I’m doing 16 hour work days effortlessly, which is crazy. Legit, I wake up and work all day long, with breaks only to make a drink or go to the toilet
But, my sleep worsening is concerning, there’s only so much productivity I can have if my recovery isn’t best. I don’t know which title generates this sleep-worsening effect so I’ll try 2.5 min Mogul + 5 min LotS (5 min because with 3 min I’m not really feeling any motivation for dieting and working out like I had with 15 minutes previous cycle. So I’ll slowly be upping exposure to this)
You are not alone, pal.
This is better. Will try upping LotS a bit more
EDIT: and maybe doing 2:15s of Mogul.
5 mins of LotS works way better for me than 3, my motivation for dieting and exercise slowly rising, and I’m genuinely noticing that I like my body more (I think it’s just a self perception shift though because I’m not seeing any changes - or they are just too subtle for me to notice)
Will try to make a jump to 8 min of LotS. I consider myself to be quite advanced when it comes to correct dieting and training so I think I’m good with running longer loops of LotS
Yet with money, I’ve got a ton of things to work through, so Mogul is at such low listening duration compared to LotS. And all of that even with running EOG, and Emperor, and other subs for quite some time lol. The future is bright though, I’m definitely successfully building my foundation with it.