Emperor : PACMAN

I dont like being with people because i am very disagreeable which is an alpha trait. So they may come close and then realise im strongly alpha then distance themselves…

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My custom is Emperor/Chosen and damn it’s a good combo. It’s everything Emperor, but with the added benefit of people being even more compliant to you because you’re charismatic. All that same intensity and energy, but without so many people rejecting your ideas and forcing you to dominate them as a leader. much more natural compliance, because when you’re the most liked guy AND the strongest guy, it’s literally a social disgrace to NOT agree with you…

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I started collecting antique items that i will use. I got a Charles Dickenz coffee mug - Old Curiosity Shop London.

I also felt a strong urge to buy a pipe and some tobacco.

Not sure where this is coming from…
Any ideas?

To me it seems i will be very unique and a class of my own…

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When I was doing the initial ZP testing of Wanted, I started finding kickass shirts at the Goodwill store. Shirts that really help bring out my sexy vibe.

I’ll admit I never thought about Emperor doing stuff like with the pipe/tobacco. Though I guess it makes sense. I tend to enjoy a cigar more when rubbing alpha subs

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Tried the 5min listening pattern and ended up angry as hell.
I am also feeling very tired today.

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When you kill your ego…do you become weak and beta?

I love to read you comments on this matter.

@AlexanderGraves
@Simon
@Lion
@Simon
@Trader
@Tobyone
@ABC333
@aaa
@Malkuth
@Skadoosh
@Azriel

If i hadnt tagged you feel free to comment.
Thank you.

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No.

Killing ego means eliminating selfish bias.

You’re not alpha or beta.

You become…unpredictable

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Must admit I have had different viewpoints regarding this over the years.

  1. Ego bad. It is a weakness the devil can exploit. This is from my Catholic schoolboy days when everything was black and white. When I stopped being Catholic, I ended up with…

  2. Ego is identity. It is what makes you who you are. Suffice to say that this is an over-correction from the previous viewpoint and I ended up being one of those guys who was over-confident. Not a good social feature nor good for self-growth.

  3. Some ego is fine. You have things about you that are admirable and some you are still working on. And as long as you are trying to be a better you, there is no issues with having your ego around because you know that you are neither your ego, thoughts, feelings but actually consciousness. While at the same time not despising your ego, thoughts and feelings but accepting them as they are while you still walk your path towards a higher level of consciousness.

In the end, you don’t have to actively kill your ego. It might die along the way. But you don’t need to try too hard.

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No, killing ego and killing confidence are two separate things. Killing your ego is killing everything that holds you back. Ego doesn’t make you confident compared to real confidence.

Your ego is always thinking you’re better than everyone and everything. Confidence is knowing that you are okay with and by yourself. Confidence is knowing that, if something is destroyed, you will still be able to improve and be better & greater. When someone destroys their ego, they will think they’ve lost everything they have.

(I think I could better word this? Well this is my take.)

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Happened to me, but only because I didn’t fully understand it.

For me, the Ego is a or many persona(s) we create to fit into society, or social circles.

Killing it will reveal your true self, as it did for me. Which - in my opinion - is absolutely desirable.

HOWEVER, you still need to be aware of your environment are where you find yourself. For this you need tools to protect you and serve you. Your true - somewhat childish, free living self - doesn’t know how to do that.

So I think, yes, most people when they kill their Ego/find a higher Self, will become weak at first. Some will stay that way. But if you have enough self-awareness you will see the issues in that and then build tools to help you.
Are these tools a new refined Ego? Maybe.
I think it’s just bolstering your personality against attacks.

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To me the ego is just a tool of navigation, almost like some kind of algorithm or robotic operating system. I can relate to the phase your in, I was also years back hating on my so called ego and wanted it gone. But who is the one wanting it gone? Instead I’m just learning to love it and all sides to it, but I also learn to let go of what I deem not serving my current lifestyle, and here subliminal are very helpful.

I also try to become more aware when the it is just repeating things over and over again and triggering old wounds and trauma, and to see when I live my life just coping all the time and living in denial. It’s a journey, learn to Hakuna Matata more and smile is my tip :slight_smile:

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If you manage to kill your ego please send me the winning lottery numbers. That’s what I have to say. :smiley:

I like the idea of having total freedom which is the freedom to choose or not choose anything at all.

So I’d face that fear, ideally. Allow yourself to be as beta as you can be. Then Allow yourself to be it’s complete opposite. Then when you can switch between the two at the drop of a hat they may lose their importance and you’ll have a new option show up for you.

There’s also the idea of dissolving opposites, sort of integrating the shadow idea. I don’t know what the process is called but in one hand you’d have all the beta, in the other hand all the alpha, then you’d smash them together so they integrate. You’d probably want to check with an NLP/Hypnotist coach for that kind of thing.

The Syd Banks approach is don’t fight with your ego because you’re fighting with something that doesn’t exist. Ego is only what you think of yourself and the world, nothing else.

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Killing the ego is just a perspective from spiritual traditions
that is heavy on certain concepts and semantics. Dr. Hawkins, Eckart Tolle etc. Transcendent and more masculine-oriented traditions. There is a lot of value in that from a certain perspective. The ego in this sense is pain, masks, hurt, insecurity, false beliefs etc. From that perspective successfully not identifying with the ego (‘killing’ the ego is a fool’s game) makes one MUCH more Alpha. Low reactivity, energy, and value derived internally.

Psychological speaking the ego is just an aspect/collective of identity that navigates and interfaces with life. A healthy ego has a solid sense of identity and self-esteem.

The smartest perspective in my opinion is that what we call or label ego is really just unintegrated parts or fragments of ourselves that we have no relationships to/ a relationship where we treat those parts horribly because we don’t realize they are us or that we are even in a relationship.

Each of those parts has TREMENDOUS power, and wisdom when the right relationship with it is developed. As those parts are integrated and become more whole, we find our internal power, capacity, self-love, and self-trust shoot through the roof. That is real ‘Alpha’ to me. Think of the kind of leader who you would actually die for because of the level of respect and trust you have for them, and them for you, how much they actually look out for you in the way you like. You become that for those parts of yourself. You also then can’t help but become a leader for those around you since everyone is craving to be treated and related to that way and once they feel it, they’re in. Hope that makes any sense

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The ride on Emperor is extremely rough for me. I am going through tons of reconciliation.

Tons of anger keep coming up from time to time. There are various times in which I feel very good on Emperor and other times I feel terrible.

Many members advised that I should go to GLM and Ascended Mogul. These two titles will heal my masculine core and allow me to develop my masculinity with Emperor.

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I was actually thinking of doing the same thing … putting Ascended Mogul and GLM in a custom and running it for 2 months then running Emperor

Did you experience the same on Emperor?

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I was inconsistent on Emperor at best lol… But i did see some recon on it but not terrible amounts… I listened to Emperor many times off and on since joining subclub back in 2018… it was actually my first sub.

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There are times when I feel so strong and confident and times when I just go extreme low even below my baseline.
I have experienced whatever @Skadoosh and @AlexanderGraves experience on Emperor but for me it’s not stable.

Does Emperor constantly make you feel low so that you can consciously take action to pick yourself up?

I have a female coworker that I meet regularly to lay. I am not feeling so close to her now. The bond we had is now fading from my side. We still talk and flirt etc but I don’t feel for her like I once did.

It’s like one day I want to be with her and the next I don’t want to see her or hear her.

There is a new lady at work which I more interested in her.
It seems as if I’m out growing ladies very fast.
The same thing is happening with my partner. She seems very distant from me. I also don’t feel anything towards her. Once starting Emperor the intimacy has decreased. She still obeys me and wants me around her. But that connection is gone.

When it comes to productivity…yes! That is extremely visible. Waking up before the alarm etc.

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Nah. If anything its as always recon. Sometimes this goes REALLY deep.

Could also be reshape of your hormonal system that’s definitely making you feel low until its resolved.

The Emperor is very focused on people that ADD to his life. Maybe you now see that the occasional sex doesnt really add to your purpose and life, so you are less interested.

Take a few days off and see if anything changes. Maybe there is deep processing happening.

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What you’re experiencing is growth through the pain (healing=recon). The healing process (recon) causes that fluctuation (ups and downs). Emperor (and any sub) gets deeper and hits harder with time while healing you through the process called reconciliation. That’s an essential part of the transgression, switching from your old hypnotic state (and patterns) to the new one. You can ease that process by running more essential (especially, healing) subs first, I BELIEVE.

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