Do you talk about your Subs to other persons?

Questions and Comments
#15

I hear your dilemna. I’ll hang on one point since even when the “unhealthy” one in my life did it, it stuck in my brain.

Me and my wife met under stressful circumstances, and we were both very accommodating to one another. It’s called codependency in most circles. We lived like that for years until she (the one I thought was unhealthy–don’t laugh) started drawing boundaries. I thought she was turning cold, and she was. She needed to heal herself. She did some, and chose to exit the marriage in time.

I’ve learned that no person can fix another. She couldn’t, and damn, she tried. And I was doing the exact same thing. I’ve had a focus since then on healing myself…ummm…since noone else was around maybe? My vision is changing slowly. I’m not seeing everyone else as broken. I just wasn’t owning my brokenness and was projecting my own onto others.

My advice would be to focus on YOU. Care for her as best she can, but let her make her own choices. Take the focus off her, and you’ll both get stronger. It will create tension. But be honest with her and yourself so she’ll see your real intentions. Love her. She’ll feel it and respond beautifully. Women are just built like that.

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#16

In my case, it is a man who is built like that, :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: but… you have described my situation pretty much to the point.
Thank you!
Maybe I should add a Sub that creates THE perfect relationship. I am sure there are plenty around here.

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#17

I was in this marriage restoration group during our separation, and I heard the leader address this numerous times. He said women don’t hear “I care about you so I’m offering help”. What they translate it as is “this is bothering ME, so I’m seeking to help me by offering you this. Aren’t I such a loving person?” He called out guys frequently (myself included) since as guys we’re very goal-oriented and often un-relational. Which makes us different from women altogether.

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#18

Oops. Foot in mouth. :wink:

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#19

No problem, mate - how should YOU know? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
And as I said before - the situation seems to be like yours. Except for that we are not even close to separate. But you made a good point in this:

I guess this goes for ALL couples - straight or LGBT or whatever.

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#20

Similar discussion from last year.

Click the topic name to visit the thread.

:+1:t2:

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#21

People have to want to help themselves. They trust drugs more than they do subs.

This is an interest that I share with my partner and that’s it for now.

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#22

As @lrw was saying only very close people you trust you can talk to about sub

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#23

There’s a saying: the worst vice is advice.

Unless someone is asking for it, I don’t give it.

And if they didn’t ask for it, and there’s still a strong desire to expose them to information that could help, I ask permission to tell them first.

So, assuming you got the green light to give your advice and they reject it, or talk shit: move on.

Let it roll off like water off a duck’s back. They’re not ready (or it’s not part of their path) and it’s not your job to convince them.

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#24

This is an industry where people have to FIND US rather than us reaching out to them. Subliminal use is easy, but it’s a long, long journey, that first starts with a potential user telling themselves that there’s more to this existence than they realize. Once that happens, you begin to walk through a door that you can never go back through again. We know this intuitively, and that’s why so many people shun the idea.

Dick Gregory said that once the universe chooses you and you have to put on the “special goggles,” there’s no going back. You can never forget things. Some people simply aren’t ready for that journey yet. You can’t force them. And not everyone is going to explore the universe through subliminals. Perhaps their journey lies elsewhere. That being said, when a person begins to look for more, the universe is going to provide.

They’ll find their way here, or elsewhere – whatever will expand their minds. No need to push or tell others who are focused intently on themselves that they should be pushing. The more you develop the self, the better suited you’ll be to help others.

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#25

This is true…

I remember the day when I got banned from subliminalclub for 1000 years for piracy. I felt like the floor was being pulled out from under my feet. I never wanted to harm anybody, I was just a poor student. But that moment I immediately felt the significance of my mistake. Sadness, frustration, rage everything at once, a spicy cocktail of emotions. You truly cannot go back once you opened your mind for it.

Life is simply better with excess to candy. And that‘s why I am 100% loyal to this company and will stay till the bitter end. I just hope I would be able to be as loyal to my girlfriends haha :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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#26

Only with the people I’m closest with and I know are open minded.

Except for one friend of mine who’s also in sales, then we have an inside joke that I’m a subliminal junkie, because every time he’s like “damn dude my car broke down” i’m just like “oh yeah there’s a subliminal for that.”

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#27

I recommended dragon reborn to my brother but I mostly discuss my sub usage with people within this forum or other communities I’m apart of.

People in other sub groups.

It’s weird trying to get someone to join this journey.

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#28

I recommended it to my girlfriend, mom, dad, and older sister, and I only used it satisfied with my girlfriend, and my sister cursed and ridiculed me, and my mom and dad tried to ruin me with what I gave them, so I removed it again.

The lesson learned is that a good wife or girlfriend and, if you are a parent, children are appropriate. I can recommend it if the family’s mental state is okay, but the results are usually not good.(They tried to hurt me with the tools I gave them without any sign of appreciation.)

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#29

Denial, my friend.
I get you totally, but if you are afraid of being called a weirdo, then other have control over you. Anyway, any ZP title will get you there to not care.

As in, I don’t go out telling people directly and trying to get them on the bandwagon, but if someone asks me, I am just like, “Subliminal Messaging.”

That’s it.
If they’re curious, they ask more. If they might even be on the fence, they ask more.
If they don’t. Fine. Their pace.
If they call me a weirdo and laugh at me, I find new friends instead of acting like I have anything in common with the current ones :slight_smile:

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#30

@SaintSovereign Awhile back a wise guru told me To lead by example and if they ask you then tell them your secret. I didn’t understand stand at first but now I really get what he was saying. Back in the day when I would learn a new thing I would want to snatch people off the streets and shout it from the rooftops. Lesson learned. That Dick Gregory quote, blow me away. Thank you​:+1::pray::pray::100:

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#31

Thanks everyone for this great feedback!

I think I can draw the right conclusions: Don’t “advertise” Subs without being asked, and IF you are asked, be open to take “no” for an answer. Accept the fact that YOUR way of dealing with obstacles or goals in your life must not necessarily be other person’s way. Which includes your partner - especially your partner.

BUT IF you meet a person who is really interested… “What, you are doing subliminals and they work for you? I have always wanted to try that, but I don’t trust the stuff on YouTube, so PLEASE do tell me more about the ones you are using…!” - then GO FOR IT! :sunglasses:

Have a great weekend everyone!

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#32

You too! :raised_hands:

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#33

When the student is ready…

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#34

Occasionally. I shared with my wife who is a regular sub user now.
With others I sometimes tell someone about it if I think they’d be receptive and would benefit from them.

I just shut up about it. It’s not up to force anyone but myself to do what they need to to solve their problems. That’s their responsibility.

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