I don’t have enough experience with Sanguine to answer fairly. I’ve only thrown in a loop during rough periods of recon, and since ZP emerged, recon has been even less for me.
What are you proposing?
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It’s been a while since I’ve run it. Have you read the objectives recently? See if anything resonates with you.
I just see two main standouts your mind is calling out for in your post. Safety and healing. But safety does seem to be the bigger one because it sounds like you just need some ground beneath your feet so to speak.
I think it would be a good addition to any forward growth sub of your choosing. I know you want to run DR. But does DR work for you? It’s an intense title.
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Thinking about that question. It stirred me, yes. But I almost always had this belief that “I will make it”.
I actually had some crying sessions while driving for work while using DR. It was freeing. It was release.
And I mention it because it was an avenue which I’ve kept open. Yesterday, Saturday, I was driving for work, and tears came up. I allowed them. No tension from holding them in. I don’t desire to live in “stuck”.
I spent months on both Stages 1 and 2, locking up before Stage 3. The first two stages, in my opinion, were relatively easy with all the underrated support scripting in it. That quiet but powerful subconscious coaching is what I relied upon a lot.
And I am still holding on to something that’s kept me in emotional lockdown often. Genesis has helped me believe that good things are in me. And that success is possible. Saint advised not to make a custom with them, but I could stack them.
Intense was not how I perceived it. I remember me being in that mindset of “who am I really?” And that was more of a quiet victory for me. But yeah, it shook me at times.
I just rarely, and I mean that literally, felt overwhelmed. That support scripting is the secret sauce.
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What do you think caused you to not move onto stage 3 of DR?
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I’m seeing that I’ve been glued to an unspoken family tradition of failure and playing the victim.
That has been what I’ve been holding to, thinking (childishly, of course) that I’d be loved if I lived down to those standards.
There’s a ton of hiding, shame, and regret it demands too.
So why the change?
It’s. Not. Real.
Living by those standards is painful. I’m tired of living down to that lie.
I just ordered her first book. I’ve listened to some interviews she’s done.
If she hasn’t cracked the code, she’s come very closer. Very insightful!
If I was experiencing such things, here is what I would do.
I would go to the library (and if the library didn’t have these books, I’d ask about Inter-Library Loan) and look for these books:
The books by Dr. Lindsay Gibson
Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns
(Dr. Burns also has a self-esteem book)
When I say no I feel Guilty by Dr. Manuel Smith
Why go to the library? It’s probably free. That way if I like the books, I can then order them. If not, then nothing lost, right?
I would also consider what @Fractal_Explorer said. Perhaps Sanguine: The Elixir would be important.
You’re using DR. When I was going through the stages of DR, I found The Elixir helpful for dealing with reconciliation.
Maybe consider KB in the future.
Those are my thoughts; what are yours?
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RV,
Day 2 of avoiding writing here. I did DR St.1 yesterday, and also LBFH. LBFH was a little too much.
I’m seeing and feeling I’m in this avoidant mentality, attempting to find some familiar norm.
I’m not in emotional hell. I’m just scared of something. Trying to avoid something.
Exactly. I’m trying to avoid opening up here. I feel it.
Sadness was felt just below the surface.
I’m trying to do things in agreement with everyone so I’m not rejected. Not forsaken. Not left behind.
That’s what my WHOLE life has been wrapped around.
Gotta run. Leaving for work soon. I want to uncover this.
I could… damn
Edit. I could call out. Afraid of criticism. Mfer
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It’s bliss and relief for me when I allow myself to dump my uglies.
I can do something
There’s one huge setback to your healing that I’ve noticed and, therefore, I suggested Primal (but Ascension could be better for that). How can you get healed when you keep hurting yourself, you’re locked in a self-sabotage circle, and you maltreat yourself? You need to change your attitude towards yourself (and towards life in general) and perspective to be done with it. Nothing better than alpha titles and those encouraging self-care/love. I think that was the main reason CFW worked for you so good (alpha mindset+self-care/love). Ascension+CFW is what I suggest. Upon changing your attitude towards yourself and your general perspective (outlook on life) you could tackle your traumas with DR. However, I think on Ascension+CFW you could get enough healing reaffrimed by people around you and, especially, by yourself (the new way you treat yourself), and that’s vital.
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What about microloops?
I’m having a low-level recon still from yesterday, so I’m considering maybe doing a 3 minute microloop of LBFH by itself tomorrow. Maybe even shorter. Stacking all that love on to “let’s disinigrate these ultra-limiting beliefs” was too much. It wasn’t pure hell. It was just too much to process so quickly.
I’m also considering @Sub.Zero’s suggestion on switching back to CFW along with Ascension (I’m leaning towards Primal since it was fun.) I’m looking at how CFW worked for me, and moreso what I didn’t even notice. I noticed a lot. I just wasn’t stuck in recon again and again. I found this on the CFW sales page:
“Chosen From Within also contains a large amount of upgraded scripted from Sanguine, to help make the healing process as peaceful and pleasurable as possible.” Most of my time on CFW was pretty manageable.
I’ve also not had an answer to your repeated statements that I’m different from a year ago. Nothing’s really clicked as a reason.
But this feature in CFW made a lot of sense emotionally to me, as I was doing this. I didn’t think anything about it as I progressed with it::
“That’s why Chosen From Within includes an incredible amount of new original scripting that encourages you to view the past through the lens of wisdom, knowledge and understanding, helping you to mentally reframe those experiences as opportunities for growth. Through this process, you’ll learn more about who you are, what you’ve experienced and how to use these lessons to navigate the world in a more powerful, positive manner going forward. This doesn’t mean that you’ll suddenly forgive everyone who wronged you and become overly meek or kind. On the contrary, you’ll experience a sense of peaceful acceptance that what has happened has happened, but now you are armed with the knowledge (and ability to apply that knowledge) to prevent those situations from ever happening again.” (emphasis mine)
Now that I think about it, I got stuck with CFW since I didn’t have a mental framework for ambition and growth. I’ve repressed it so often, thinking it would eliminate the “me” in my past.
I’m considering CFW. I’m undecided on Ascension vs. Primal. It’s literally ambition…or lust? Hmmm. Not the worst 1st world problem to have.
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Finding and following your purpose or having fun with women. From what I see, you have a vague idea on your purpose and goals, even your identity. Are you really ready to invite women to your life? It could do you more damage than you think. It COULD.
Ascension is not only about finding your purpose but also your identity as a man, and a human being. That’s what you need the most given all I’ve read from you:
ASCENSION will help you develop a sense of identity-level deep, genuine, unshakeable self-confidence, prompting you to become self-reliant both mentally and emotionally.
And these are the relevant objectives:
- Embark on an inner journey to discover who you really are and what you want out of life.
- Experience what masculinity truly means for you, your goals, your desires.
- Become empowered to take control of your life and future.
- Unleash your sense of inner power, grow your independence, willpower and confidence.
This alone is the fix you’ve needed for your whole life. Stop hiding from yourself and lying to yourself. It’s time to embrace all this crap as a MAN.
Plus, the best bonus ever:
- Develop and Embrace a physically and emotionally healthy lifestyle.
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Responsibility. That’s what I wasn’t seeing when you claimed I was different.
I’ve been thinking of my mindset while on CFW this last 24 hours, and I felt this drive to get up and face things this morning vs. avoiding and ultimately creating stress and worry.
I felt good…secure in my choices, not tangled with whiny self-sabotage. CFW takes away that poor-me victim fallback. This leads to what any self-respecting person would feel led to do, which is to take responsibility for themselves.
@Sub.Zero, thank you for seeing this difference in mentalities and choices I’ve made. I realize that that same avoidant mentality is playing lawyer games with me, saying “it’ll be easier over here”. Ascension is what I need, and also what I want when I really think on it. Thank you for the encouragement.
I did no loops this morning. Slight pangs of recon still.
Being responsible for myself is an adjustment by itself. One day at a time.
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How about 30 seconds?
If you were to change to CFW, what would your playlist look like?
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Likely just CFW and Ascension initially. I’m attracted to the Genesis/Ascension combo to possibly be released in the future, and I’d switch Ascension out for that good mix when it shows up.
I’ll also be using AC since it had some profound effects when using it with CFW.
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I will admit I’m glad I’ll be using Ascension again. I’ve been growing angry lately–because I don’t speak up for myself much. I’m tired of allowing people to be flipping rude to me. Some of it’s those little putdowns that I’ve allowed. I’m becoming aware people only do it because I’ve never stood up for myself much at all.
I remember an outburst I had with a co-worker months back. I’d been using Emperor for weeks, and I stood up for myself loudly while working together.
It shocked both of us–but he heard me. Memorable moments.
Edit: it wasn’t even the freedom to be angry which shocked me. It was that I allowed myself to stand up for myself. That’s what felt like a true first.
Aug. 31, 2023
CFW and AC this morning
I listened to CFW and AC this morning. Feeling some shifting around, but it’s quiet.
It feels like something is being pulled away from me. I don’t know what or why. This title does make me introspect more.
I’ll listen to Ascension tonight.
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Could you kindly elaborate more on that, please?
Thanks. 
That story actually begins back in 2011.
Me and my wife had separated, and I’d began using The Healing Codes to hopefully heal some emotional baggage of mine. I shared this here on the forum years ago. I devoted a lot of time to this since I realized it was possible.
Then, maybe a month after starting, I woke up and had a childhood memory come to mind–but I didn’t feel overrun by fear and terror. None at all. I was maybe 2 years old, standing in my crib crying out, and my mom walked by, dazed by her own traumas in that time. I knew this was a root to why I felt abandoned and feared abandonment constantly.
Again, my emotions weren’t hijacked when I remembered this, and that was huge.
The connection to AC is that about 3-4 months ago, I was using CFW, and one morning I added AC to it. I’d never used it with CFW before.
I was on the back of a garbage truck that day, and suddenly I remembered that same memory I shared above. No onslaught of fear. No feeling helpless. It was like I was just witnessing my own experience without all the emotion.
So that’s why I added it today. As I sit here now, I’m getting the nudge to… let this go. Tears came. Can I close this door?
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